EXACTLY!
There are good reasons for fixed price/fixed unit price agreements other
than clinical trials in some circumstances, particularly research with
for-profit sponsors.  Projects of this nature are less likely to draw UBIT
attention than clinical trials.  But consistent "surpluses" always  "smell"
like UBIT.

Chuck

At 03:55 PM 10/31/2003, you wrote:
>** High Priority **
>
>Plus you get into UBI and here comes the IRS.
>
>Mary Spijkerman
>
> >>> xxxxxx@VCU.EDU 10/31/03 02:04PM >>>
>Yes, "you know it when you see it".  A look at the actual charges will
>usually pretty clearly indicate if the PI has failed to charge to this
>project costs that reasonably apply to it.  A big giveaway is no PI effort,
>or way too little effort.  You have to watch out for the researcher who
>charged real costs of this project somewhere else, in order to build up a
>nest egg.  Your policy of who gets the surplus and how it may be used might
>affect people's behavior in this arena.
>
>And carefully consider if the project was agreed to at less than full F&A;
>if so, you may want a policy that takes the F&A difference off the residual
>before making it available for other research and education uses.
>
>Having a little surplus indicates good, conservative budgeting.  Having
>lots, especially if it is consistent, suggests making a "profit", which a
>non-profit should not consistently do.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>At 02:05 PM 10/31/2003, Doug Wilkerson wrote:
> >How much Residual is too much???  After your PI certifies that he/she has
> >paid all internal and external bills (and you verify this however you can)
> >and you have a "release" from the sponsoring company saying that they are
> >satisfied that you have delivered everything that you promised, what
> >percentage of the revenues would you expect (and be comfortable with)
> >being left in the study account?  Is 10% OK?  How about 30%?  How about
> >70%?  OR, is too much like pornography "you know it when you see it"?
> >
> >
> >
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