While I am intrigued and puzzled by Charlie's experience with fish and rats,
and its relationship to this business (!), I do think he is right about a
degree not being necessary - especially an advanced degree. (Susan's
requirements may be extreme in some circumstances, but each school is
different.)  I don't really think a Masters is necessary for this job. I
think a BA/BS degree might be important to establish credibility with
faculty, but in the end, the qualities that really count are accuracy,
efficiency, attention to detail, intelligence, excellent ethics, ability to
work with others, ability to work under the stress of deadlines and other
factors - not really stuff you can get a degree for, except in the School of
Life!

Diana Thompson Vincelli
Associate Director
Foundation, Corporate & Government Relations
University of Richmond

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Hathaway [mailto:xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 4:58 PM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] qualifications for research admin

I disagree.  Aren't most faculty members interested in good service above
all else?  I think most people, even in an environment that, on the surface,
seems defined by academic credentials, look at intelligence, credibility,
and work ethic above all else. What difference does a degree make?  My years
spent chopping up fish and rats didn't help me in "supervising others,
assisting faculty to develop proposals, including interpreting guidelines,
setting up and monitoring accounts & expenditures, advising on compliance
issues".

Charlie Hathaway

PHD..piled high and deep

At 04:21 PM 4/8/03 -0400, you wrote:
>rebecca-
>yes, the degree is absolutely necessary in an academic environment, and,
even
>though the position is assistant director, i'd put the minimum at a
master's.
>furthermore, i'd want to see 8-10 years experience in steadily more
responsible
>research admin positions, with supervisory experience as well as experience
in
>the specific areas for which this person will have responsibilties.
>susan
>
>--
>Susan B. Burke
>Information Specialist
>Office of Research Services
>The George Washington University
>2121 I Street NW, Suite 601
>Washington, DC 20052
>Telephone: 202-994-9136
>Facsimile: 202-994-9137

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Office of Grant Support
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
1300 Morris Park Avenue
Bronx, NY 10461-1975
Phone: 718 430-3642     Fax: 718 430-8822
email: xxxxxx@aecom.yu.edu
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