Re: RESADM-L Digest - 18 Mar 2003 to 19 Mar 2003 (#2003-60) Eleanor M. Cicinsky 20 Mar 2003 07:57 EST

I had a faculty type who came in last Friday at 4:30 for a 5 pm deadline to IES.  She
didn't have the .pdf created because she thought .pdf meant she was able to look at
her work via Adobe Acrobat and neither one of us was familiar with the IES system.
Her excuse was, the proposal opportunity just came up so, I did it.  Needless to
say,  it didn't get very far.

Automatic digest processor wrote:

> There are 3 messages totalling 331 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
>   1. Electronic proposal lead time
>   2. OMB Circulars (2)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:25:49 -0500
> From:    Audrey Buck <xxxxxx@POBOX.UPENN.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Electronic proposal lead time
>
> Dennis, the best of luck enforcing that new rule.
>
> Audrey
>
> Office of Research Services
> 3451 Walnut Street, Room P221 Franklin
> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6205
> (p) 215 573 6709
> (f) 215 898 9708
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Dennis J. Paffrath
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Electronic proposal lead time
>
> At Utah State University, we have instituted a new policy which requires
> all proposed applications be submitted to my office 2 full working days
> before the Sponsor due date. If they are not submitted as per the
> policy, USU will no longer be signing the applications or transmitting
> them electronically.  We have determined that there will most likely be
> some exceptions to this rule, but there will be a fee attached to the
> lateness of the proposal.  Thankfully, the Vice President for Research,
> the Research Council and our President are in full support of this.  The
> policy becomes effective as of May 1.
>
> Dennis J. Paffrath, Director
> Utah State University
> Sponsored Programs Office
> 1415 Old Main Hill - Room 64
> Logan, UT  84322-1415
>
> xxxxxx@usu.edu
> (435) 797-8302
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:50 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Electronic proposal lead time
>
> I tell researchers that electronic research administration will speed up
> application review and award but those benefits will require sacrifice
> on the
> pre-submission side.  When full implementation occurs and electronic
> routing
> for all approvals/signatures is part of the game, 4:58 proposals will be
> a
> thing of the past.
>
> Charlie Hathaway
>
> Quoting Steven Etheredge <xxxxxx@GWM.SC.EDU>:
>
> > Dear Colleagues:
> >
> > While all of us have preferred lead times (in our case, 3 days) for
> > receiving proposals in our office, we have been experiencing more
> angst
> > than usual as more and more agencies have gone to electronic
> submission.
> > (And we thought eRA would make our jobs easier!)  We are a large
> > institution and will submit approximately 1,700 proposals this year.
> We
> > are finding that our PI's normal behavior of getting many proposals to
> > us on the actual day of required electronic submission is creating
> > significant issues with non-user friendly e-grant systems, such as
> DOE,
> > along with slow agency server response on due dates.  We are being
> > pushed to the limits in getting these e-proposals submitted before the
> > deadline.
> >
> > My questions relate to whether your institution has developed
> > guidelines to deal specifically with proposals that require electronic
> > submission.  We are contemplating putting such a policy in place.
> Your
> > input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Steve Etheredge
> > Associate Director
> >
> >
> >
> > R. Steven Etheredge, Associate Director
> > Sponsored Programs & Research
> > University of South Carolina
> > (803) 777-7093
> > (803) 777-4136 fax
> > xxxxxx@gwm.sc.edu
> >
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 19 Mar 2003 12:57:38 -0500
> From:    "Karen L. O'Connor-Knox" <xxxxxx@CSUOHIO.EDU>
> Subject: Re: OMB Circulars
>
> I'm looking for a quick and easy way to try and understand the OMB
> ciruclars - any thoughts?
> karen
>
> Audrey Buck <xxxxxx@POBOX.UPENN.EDU>@HRINET.ORG> on 03/19/2003 12:25:49 PM
>
> Please respond to Research Administration Discussion List
>       <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>
>
> Sent by:  Research Administration List <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>
>
> To:   xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> cc:
>
> Subject:  Re: [RESADM-L] Electronic proposal lead time
>
> Dennis, the best of luck enforcing that new rule.
>
> Audrey
>
> Office of Research Services
> 3451 Walnut Street, Room P221 Franklin
> Philadelphia, PA 19104-6205
> (p) 215 573 6709
> (f) 215 898 9708
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Dennis J. Paffrath
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Electronic proposal lead time
>
> At Utah State University, we have instituted a new policy which requires
> all proposed applications be submitted to my office 2 full working days
> before the Sponsor due date. If they are not submitted as per the
> policy, USU will no longer be signing the applications or transmitting
> them electronically.  We have determined that there will most likely be
> some exceptions to this rule, but there will be a fee attached to the
> lateness of the proposal.  Thankfully, the Vice President for Research,
> the Research Council and our President are in full support of this.  The
> policy becomes effective as of May 1.
>
> Dennis J. Paffrath, Director
> Utah State University
> Sponsored Programs Office
> 1415 Old Main Hill - Room 64
> Logan, UT  84322-1415
>
> xxxxxx@usu.edu
> (435) 797-8302
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:50 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Electronic proposal lead time
>
> I tell researchers that electronic research administration will speed up
> application review and award but those benefits will require sacrifice
> on the
> pre-submission side.  When full implementation occurs and electronic
> routing
> for all approvals/signatures is part of the game, 4:58 proposals will be
> a
> thing of the past.
>
> Charlie Hathaway
>
> Quoting Steven Etheredge <xxxxxx@GWM.SC.EDU>:
>
> > Dear Colleagues:
> >
> > While all of us have preferred lead times (in our case, 3 days) for
> > receiving proposals in our office, we have been experiencing more
> angst
> > than usual as more and more agencies have gone to electronic
> submission.
> > (And we thought eRA would make our jobs easier!)  We are a large
> > institution and will submit approximately 1,700 proposals this year.
> We
> > are finding that our PI's normal behavior of getting many proposals to
> > us on the actual day of required electronic submission is creating
> > significant issues with non-user friendly e-grant systems, such as
> DOE,
> > along with slow agency server response on due dates.  We are being
> > pushed to the limits in getting these e-proposals submitted before the
> > deadline.
> >
> > My questions relate to whether your institution has developed
> > guidelines to deal specifically with proposals that require electronic
> > submission.  We are contemplating putting such a policy in place.
> Your
> > input will be appreciated.
> >
> > Steve Etheredge
> > Associate Director
> >
> >
> >
> > R. Steven Etheredge, Associate Director
> > Sponsored Programs & Research
> > University of South Carolina
> > (803) 777-7093
> > (803) 777-4136 fax
> > xxxxxx@gwm.sc.edu
> >
> >
> > ======================================================================
> >  Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including
> >  subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
> >  via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists")
> > ======================================================================
> >
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Wed, 19 Mar 2003 14:16:50 -0600
> From:    "Davis, Scott" <xxxxxx@OUHSC.EDU>
> Subject: Re: OMB Circulars
>
> Karen,
>
> I used the NCURA Fundamentals Reference Site when I was studying for my CRA exam.
>
> http://www.ncura.edu/members/fundamentals/FundamentalsSection.asp?PageID=6
>
> scott
>
> Scott Davis
> Sponsored Programs Administrator
> University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center
>
> Tel  405.271.2090
> Fax 405.271.8651
> xxxxxx@ouhsc.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen L. O'Connor-Knox [mailto:xxxxxx@CSUOHIO.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] OMB Circulars
>
> I'm looking for a quick and easy way to try and understand the OMB
> ciruclars - any thoughts?
> karen
>
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>  subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available
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>
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