Re: NIH stipend schedule Kane, Susan E. 10 Mar 2003 15:52 EST

Hello everyone.

I come from a system, previous to my current one, in which postdocs were
paid according to an institutional scale (based on years of experience,
qualifications, etc. and typically a very competitive salary scale).  PIs
were obligated to make up the difference between the NRSA stipend and the
postdoc's salary.  By the way, I don't know that the NIH salary scale
applies to postdocs who are paid from R01-type grants, just for individual
postdoctoral fellowships and for institutional training grants.  Thus, a
postdoc salary budgeted onto a grant can be charged at the rate that the
postdoc earns according to institutional salary scales.

Susan Kane

-----Original Message-----
From: Charlie Hathaway [mailto:xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NIH stipend schedule

Amy-

I think you are right: postdocs not on NRSA grants need not be payed
according to the schedule.

We ask investigators to pay a postdoc AT LEAST the minimum on the NIH scale
(0 years experience) and encourage them to follow the scale according to
experience.

I think that if the scientific community fails to keep increasing postdoc
salaries/stipends it is being incredibly short-sighted.  There are so many
reasons other than stipends that keep bright and energetic people from
trying to make academic research a career.  We have to pay them enough to
live.

Charlie Hathaway

At 12:08 PM 3/10/03 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello all-
>I've been asked by the budget makers whether we are required to pay our
>postdocs (paid from either grants or institution funds) according to the
NIH
>stipend schedule
>http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-03-033.html.
>
>From what I can tell, the stipend schedule is created as a guideline for
the
>NIH training grants, and is not a required pay scale for all postdocs.  The
>only salary requirement is that we charge salaries in a consistent manner
>(not charge more for grant personnel than we would for institutional
>personnel).
>
>Is this correct?  Does anyone else pay institutionally supported postdocs
>according to the NIH stipend scale?  The FY03 increase is going to throw
our
>budget out of whack, and we're trying to research all options.
>
>Thanks for your help,
>-Amy
>
>
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