Re: F & A distributions Mike McCallister 14 Feb 2003 13:05 EST
We redistribute, although I haven't dug out our whimsical formula. Sure you can call it a reward. What F&A is, of course, is cash-- unbudgeted on a lot of campi. It's the only loose change many schools have and how we choose to use this cash is our business-- it's ours. If we want to turn it back as an incentive, that's fine. We charge it based on a real cost, but we choose to pay that cost with other funds, then use the reimbursement for other expenses. there's not a philosophical issue here, just a choice. And, most importantly, it's not our choice, anyway. Spanky >Would someone who responded initially to Betty (with a formula) >please also now respond to David? I'm not a budget person and am >confused. Is this a question of semantics? Or are IDCs being >recovered improperly? > >Charlie Hathaway > >At 09:21 AM 2/14/03 -0800, you wrote: >>IMHO, we would all be better off if we ceased using this >>terminology. The IDC recovery process is to reimburse actual, >>audited (A133) F&A expenses. It is not some sort of >>"reward/largesse" from the NIH. >> >>How about calling this process what it really is - A Reward Based >>On Received Grant Funding With Full IDC - utilizing internal >>institutional funds? There's nothing wrong with rewards, but >>clarity helps, usually. >> >>Maybe this would help reduce investigators thinking we >>administrators are all running some sort of shell game? >> >> David >> >>At 12:00 AM -0500 2/14/03, Automatic digest processor wrote: >>>On 2/13/2003, Farbman Betty A wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Friends: >>>> >>>> I know that we've asked this over time, but folks change their >>>>distributions >>>> from time to time, and an update would be most appreciated. >>>> >>>> Could folks please provide the following information: >>>> >>>> 1) Does your institution distribute the F&A recoveries? >>>> 2) What is your institution's formula for distribution? (e.g. - PI, Dept, >>>> Dean, etc.) >>>> >>>> I'd be happy to post the information received to the list. >>>> >>>> THANKS in advance >>>> >>>> Betty Farbman >>>> St. John's University >>>> xxxxxx@stjohns.edu >>>> >>>> ====================================================================== >>>> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >>>> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >>>> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>>> ====================================================================== >> >>-- >>=========================================================== >>Mr. David R. Fielder tel: 415.600.1600 >>Vice President Research fax: 415.600.1753 >>Research Institute email: xxxxxx@cooper.cpmc.org >>California Pacific Medical Center website: http://www.cpmc.org >>2200 Webster Street, Suite 514 >>San Francisco, CA 94115 >>=========================================================== >> >> >>====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>====================================================================== >> >> > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== -- Mike McCallister, Ph. D. Director, Research and Sponsored Programs University of Arkansas at Little Rock 2801 South University Little Rock, AR 72204-1099 (v) 501-569-8474 (f) 501-371-7614 (c) 501-590-5609 "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' (I've found it!), but 'That's funny...'" ~ Isaac Asimov ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================