We redistribute, although I haven't dug out our whimsical formula.
Sure you can call it a reward. What F&A is, of course, is cash--
unbudgeted on a lot of campi. It's the only loose change many
schools have and how we choose to use this cash is our business--
it's ours. If we want to turn it back as an incentive, that's fine.
We charge it based on a real cost, but we choose to pay that cost
with other funds, then use the reimbursement for other expenses.
there's not a philosophical issue here, just a choice. And, most
importantly, it's not our choice, anyway.
Spanky
>Would someone who responded initially to Betty (with a formula)
>please also now respond to David? I'm not a budget person and am
>confused. Is this a question of semantics? Or are IDCs being
>recovered improperly?
>
>Charlie Hathaway
>
>At 09:21 AM 2/14/03 -0800, you wrote:
>>IMHO, we would all be better off if we ceased using this
>>terminology. The IDC recovery process is to reimburse actual,
>>audited (A133) F&A expenses. It is not some sort of
>>"reward/largesse" from the NIH.
>>
>>How about calling this process what it really is - A Reward Based
>>On Received Grant Funding With Full IDC - utilizing internal
>>institutional funds? There's nothing wrong with rewards, but
>>clarity helps, usually.
>>
>>Maybe this would help reduce investigators thinking we
>>administrators are all running some sort of shell game?
>>
>> David
>>
>>At 12:00 AM -0500 2/14/03, Automatic digest processor wrote:
>>>On 2/13/2003, Farbman Betty A wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends:
>>>>
>>>> I know that we've asked this over time, but folks change their
>>>>distributions
>>>> from time to time, and an update would be most appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Could folks please provide the following information:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Does your institution distribute the F&A recoveries?
>>>> 2) What is your institution's formula for distribution? (e.g. - PI, Dept,
>>>> Dean, etc.)
>>>>
>>>> I'd be happy to post the information received to the list.
>>>>
>>>> THANKS in advance
>>>>
>>>> Betty Farbman
>>>> St. John's University
>>>> xxxxxx@stjohns.edu
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