We use TDC.  We found that MTDC is incomprehensible to industry, because
"patient care" for most universities is arcanely defined by accountants
(for very good reasons) very differently from the way health care
professionals define it.  And anyway, this is a case where the sponsor is
looking at the number in front of the % sign, with no cares to "% of what
base?"  We did a few studies a couple of years ago (before a recent raise
of our research F&A rate) and found that 25% TDC brought in not much less
than our then rate MTDC.  (But that is so manipulable depending on how you
charge for physician time -- is it a project cost, or is it procured from
your captive, but legally separate, practice plan!)

Good Hunting!

Chuck

At 01:18 PM 1/21/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Most schools that conduct insudsty sponsored clinical trials charge F & A
>costs at 20-30%.  What base do you use for this calculation?
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