Re: When Faculty Sign Their Own Contracts (Horror stories wanted) Glenn Krell 14 May 2002 11:43 EST
Debbie's point is a good one. When you get in on the front end, there's usually smooth sailing. If not...rocks and shoals! Thanks, Glenn >Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 07:45:18 -0500 >From: Debbie Smith <xxxxxx@UTMEM.EDU> >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] When Faculty Sign Their Own Contracts (Horror stories wanted) >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > >I found this interesting, inasmuch as we have had excellent relationships >with Komen (locally and nationally). . . we alter their language every time >and have had no problems (of course, we get in on the front end . . . so >far, our PIs have not signed Komen agreements without our knowledge). > >Debbie Smith > >Deborah (Debbie) L. Smith, Ed.D. >Director, Research Administration >UT Health Science Center >8 So. Dunlap, Suite C-109 >Memphis, TN 38163 >(901) 448-4823 >(901) 448-7600 fax >xxxxxx@utmem.edu > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Vicki Krell <xxxxxx@ASU.EDU> >To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> >Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 12:13 PM >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] When Faculty Sign Their Own Contracts (Horror stories wanted) > >Hi, Glenn. Interesting that we have the same last name! > >A few years ago, I had a faculty member accept an award from the Susan G. >Komen Foundation. At the awards luncheon, they just handed her the agreement >and asked if she was authorized to sign it. She said yes! Little did she >know what problems would ensue for this lapse in judgment. Well, she did >learn a valuable lesson. > >When the agreement finally got to our office, I found, during my review, an >indemnification clause which we could not accept. Since our Office of Risk >Management had recently changed the wording which we could and could not >accept regarding indemnification, we could not accept this clause as >written, and I offered up to 5 versions of alternate language. The person I >spoke with at the sponsor would not negotiate and would not refer me (or our >contracts people) to anyone else at a legal level who COULD or would >negotiate. In fact, she was very unhelpful and quite rude. > >To make a very long story short, after several months of frustrating and >useless attempts to get this taken care of so the PI could devote her time >to the project, we were forced to turn down the award and return the money. >We have not let any PI's apply to this foundation since. > >Vicki Krell >Sponsored Projects Officer >Office for Research and Sponsored Projects Admin. >Arizona State University > >-----Original Message----- >From: Glenn Krell [mailto:xxxxxx@IIT.EDU] >Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:18 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: [RESADM-L] When Faculty Sign Their Own Contracts (Horror stories >wanted) > >Hi resadmr's, >Our research newsletter for faculty has a recurring piece called "Stories >from the Horror File," and this month I am looking for your horror stories >re: consequences of faculty signing their own paperwork (contracts, >agreements) and sending it back to the funding entity thus bypassing the >trusty research administration office. Of course, this is a problem at >many research universities nationwide and I know there are plenty of >stories out there. Please reply to this list only if you don't mind your >story being publicized; otherwise, email to me off the list at >xxxxxx@iit.edu. For the newsletter article I am writing, I will not use the >name of your institution, just the sad tale of the tangled consequences of >your faculty member's noncompliance with policy. Please give examples of >resultant harm/delay to their research funds. I will post a single summary >to the group. Many thanks in advance! >-Glenn Krell > > >======================= >Glenn Krell BA, CRA >Director, Research Proposal Development >Illinois Institute of Technology >3300 South Federal Street, M/B 301 >Chicago, Illinois 60616 >312-567-7141 (voice) >312-567-7517 (fax) >email: xxxxxx@iit.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================