I didn't mean that PI's would supply budgets to NIH with other "just in time" documents; I meant that they would give them to us (OSP) around the same time.  That statement was only in reference to the timing (once they know that funding is imminent).  Sorry for the confusion.

As I said, we will not release awarded funds until we have a detailed budget - PI's just don't have to submit it with the proposal.  Keith

Keith Williams
Associate Director, Office of
Sponsored Programs
Georgia State University
404-651-4352
xxxxxx@langate.gsu.edu

>>> xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU 11/20/01 03:21PM >>>
According to NIH, budget information beyond what is received in the original modular request will be requested "only in exceptional circumstances".

Aren't institutions obligated, at some point, by powers higher than NIH, to ask for more than NIH requires?

>Keith Williams wrote:
>
>> ...In my personal opinion, it is hard to justify requiring something (a budget) that the agency does not, ....

>>
>> >"Roberta C. Nary" wrote:
>> >
>> >> We are looking at our current procedure that requires PI's to submit a line
>> >> item budget for internal purposes, when submitting a modular grant
>> >> application. We are contemplating streamlining this process to eliminate
>> >> the line item budget request at the time of application, but rather provide
>> >> it at the time of the award.  At the time of submission they would be
>> >> required to provide the modular amount for year 1 and the out years,
>> >> identify costs that affect the amount of the module, that is if there is an
>> >> increase/decrease in the modular request from one year to the next,  and
>> >> identify costs that affect the F&A calculation.
>> >>
>> >> We be interested to hear from both sides, that is, those who do require an
>> >> internal budget at the time of application and those who do not require an
>> >> internal budget at the time of application.  For those of you who do not
>> >> require an internal budget at the time of application,  I would be
>> >> interested in knowing how it works at your institution.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >>
>> >> Roberta C. Nary, CRA
>> >> Director
>> >> Office of Sponsored Programs MS 116
>> >> Brandeis University
>> >> 781 736/2119
>> >> 781 736/2123
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>> Keith Williams
>> Associate Director, Office of
>> Sponsored Programs
>> Georgia State University
>> 404-651-4352
>> xxxxxx@langate.gsu.edu
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