Re: RCR TRAINING?!?!? Herbert B. Chermside 13 Aug 2001 17:05 EST
My understanding of what's absolutely required is the same as yours. I think it inescapable, however, that some requirement for training in RCR will be mandated. COGR, representing the research university community, objected to the proposed RCR "guidelines" not on the principle that training was bad, but on the principle that the "guidelines" were a) being introduced in an inappropriate form, in that they were so prescriptive that they should have been regulation, and b) they were too prescriptive, because "not one size fits all". I also note that increasing numbers of institutions are offering material in RCR. SRA is offering this teleconference because administrators MUST understand many of the parts of RCR that also involve regulatory compliance, and should understand lots about the grey areas. We also thing that the material we present would be useful for faculty, trainees and other practitioners of science both for their personal edification and to meet at least some RCR training that might be required. The language about "required RCR" was a slip up -- but there is a great need for RCR training. That's why SRA and the specific individuals are involved!! Chuck At 10:39 AM 8/13/01 -0400, you wrote: >Okay, so let's get this straight. Last I heard, the ORI requirement for >the training in the Responsible Conduct of Research (RCR) was on >indefinite hold. So why is the Society of Research Administrators (SRA) >continuing to say"...ORI requires that all research personnel be trained >by October 1, 2003..." in their promotion of their compliance >teleconference? Also, and more concerning, why am I getting requests from >NIH (on non-competing applications no less) for evidence of investigators >having met this not-yet-in-effect requirement? There is specific language >in the Research Career Award (K) section of the "new" NIH 2590 forms (page >15 and 16) regarding the requirement, but given that a) the new forms are >not yet "required" and b) the RCR training is not yet "required," why is >this being requested? Am I missing something? Are the K's considered >"training" whereby the current RCR guidelines for "trainees" apply and >they are just now starting to ask for evidence of completion? > >How are others RESADMers handling this? > >NIH and SRA reps please feel free to reply as well. > >Thanks. > > - Pete > > > >Peter C. Koch, MBA >Director, Research Sponsored Programs >Pediatrics and Research Administration >Children's Hospital Medical Center >3333 Burnet Avenue, TCHRF-3323 >Cincinnati, Ohio 45229-3039 > >Phone: (513) 636-4583 >Fax: (513) 636-8453 >E-mail: <mailto:xxxxxx@chmcc.org>xxxxxx@chmcc.org Herbert B. Chermside, CRA Director, Sponsored Programs Administration Virginia Commonwealth University PO BOX 980568 Richmond, VA 23298-0568 Express Delivery Only: Sanger Hall, Rm. 1-032A 11th & Marshall Streets Richmond, VA 23219 Voice: 804-828-6772 Fax 804-828-2521 OFFICE e-mail xxxxxx@VCU.EDU Personal e-mail xxxxxx@vcu.edu http://views.vcu.edu/ospa/ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================