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Re: new NIH forms Herbert B. Chermside 12 Jul 2001 11:41 EST

As the research university community  moves to more completely electronic
proposal preparation and submission, the capacity to complete, save, and
revise .PDF files will (forms and documents) will be increasingly
necessary, probably as necessary as a word processor program is today --
remember when everyone used typewriters?  .PDF is the de facto standard for
"packaging" information to be available in a platform independent
manner.  I believe that in very few years, every PI will need a .PDF
creating program.  As we migrate in that direction, having the program
available for each department of other work group can be a first step.

We'll just have to consider the cost of .PDF creating programs (Adobe
Acrobat is the only reliable one I know of) part of the normal cost of
equipping an individual to be a P.I., if not today, tomorrow.

Anyone aware of site licences for Adobe Acrobat?

Chuck

At 05:28 PM 7/11/01 -0400, you wrote:
>Which brings us back to the hapless PI. Are we going to buy Adobe Acrobat for
>everyone or will this result in the Res. Admin office having even more work to
>do. Kari Hastings
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kaufman, Patrick [mailto:xxxxxx@STOWERS-INSTITUTE.ORG]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 5:12 PM
>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] new NIH forms
>
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>Here's the scoop:  If you have ADOBE READER (freeware), you can open them
>and type in them, but won't be able to save them.  If you have ADOBE ACROBAT
>(which you have to buy), you can save them also.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Amy Hibbard [mailto:xxxxxx@KGI.EDU]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:11 PM
>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] new NIH forms
>
>
>I saved them and then filled them out with no problems.  Oh, I did find that
>on form EE, in the space that calculates the direct costs for year three,
>the formula excludes the travel costs.  A minor mistake and easily fixed.
>Other than that, I was able to save, fill out, and print the forms.
>
>
>"All power corrupts, but we need the electricity."
>
>Amy Hibbard
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>Keck Graduate Institute of Applied Life Sciences
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Susan B. Burke [mailto:xxxxxx@GWU.EDU]
>Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 1:56 PM
>To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] new NIH forms
>
>
>I haven't looked, but someone in my office reports that the forms cannot be
>saved once they are filled out.  How then will the hapless PI be able to
>make changes if the research office finds errors??????
>Susan
>
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