I also agree with John.  Refreshments, comfortable chairs, a break from normal work, and an entertaining speaker will always get high ratings.  But any insights gleaned will mean little if work on a proposal is not begun months before the deadline and the proposal drafts are not adequately critiqued (by both expert and non-expert reviewers) with time left for real revision.

At 07:11 PM 4/2/01 -0400, you wrote:
>On proposal writing - I find mass instruction a waste of time mainly
>because people are at such different places in terms of their needs and
>abilities. I would make some attempt to find out what they know and don't
>know, perhaps a  grants knowledge/ skills checklist with room for  a number
>of "other" blank alternatives so they can tell you what you may have
>missed.
>
>The best learning is one-on-one with you and/or mentor on an actual
>proposal, if you can swing it.
>
>John Cosgrove
>
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