Re: RESADM-L Digest - 29 Mar 2001 to 30 Mar 2001 (#2001-63) Linda Lowenstein 02 Apr 2001 17:45 EST
on 3/31/01 1:00 AM, Automatic digest processor at xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG wrote: > There are 4 messages totalling 325 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. SRA NE/MW regional meeting > 2. Technology Fee > 3. F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors (2) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:41:36 -0500 > From: Robert Meyer <xxxxxx@PSU.EDU> > Subject: SRA NE/MW regional meeting > > Just a reminder that the early bird registration deadline of April 16th > for the Spring SRA Northeast/Midwest regional meeting is fast approaching. > Slots are still available for the special NIH and NSF on site workshops. > For more specific information and the on line registration checkout this URL > > http://grants-svr.admin.iastate.edu/SRA/SRAMIDWEST.html > > Highlights: > > The meeting is being held May 6th through 8th at the Doubletree Hotel in > Rockville, Md. In addition to the regular meeting there will be workshops > all day Saturday and Sunday morning May 5th and 6th. In conjunction with > the meeting the Northeast/Midwest sections are also sponsoring special one > day on site workshops at NIH on Friday May 4th and NSF on Wednesday May > 9th. Registrations for the on site workshops are being accepted on a first > come first serve basis. > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:20:09 -0500 > From: "RUTH L. TALLMAN" <xxxxxx@LEHIGH.EDU> > Subject: Technology Fee > > Happy Friday! > > Our university has established a technology fee that will be charged to > call graduate students this Fall. It is to cover the added expenses of > providing technology services (computing, networking, etc.). Do any of > you have experience with type of fees and do you allow the fee to be > charged to grants? > > Ruth Tallman > Lehigh University > xxxxxx@lehigh.edu > (610)758-3024 > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:08:28 -0800 > From: "David R. Fielder" <xxxxxx@COOPER.CPMC.ORG> > Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors > > All I see is the contradiction, non-profits subsidizing for-profits. > > I'm also completely unclear on why one would give a whit regarding any > "written policy" of the for-profit corporation. > > Samuela's response is reassuring (and much better written), but maybe it's a > California thing? > > Rant, rant..... :) Glad it's Friday. > > David > >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:52:51 -0500 >> From: Ruth Tallman <xxxxxx@LEHIGH.EDU> >> Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors >> >> --------------CDDED41CE0BE66D70A8CDC3C >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> Jane, >> >> I will be interested in seeing the responses, too. We use our >> negotiated rate if we can get away with it. Frequently the industrial >> sponsor only wants to put up about $50,000 for support of a student, a >> little PI time, and associated supplies, etc. With full IC, the $50,000 >> doesn't go very far so we end up negotiating a rate case by case. >> Totally separate are the research center/liaison program activities >> which are usually $50,000 or less and are charged at a rate of 12.5% so >> that the center can use some of the funds to support their staff and >> expenses. >> >> Ruth Tallman >> Office of Research and Sponsored Programs >> Lehigh University >> 526 Brodhead Avenue >> Bethlehem, PA 18015 >> Phone: (610)758-3024 >> FAX: (610)758-5994 >> E-mail: xxxxxx@lehigh.edu >> >> >> "Youngers, Jane" wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Good afternoon. >>> >>> I know that in the past we have compiled information on F&A rates used >>> in clinical studies sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. But I am >>> not sure we have compiled information on F&A rates used for industrial >>> sponsors of research. By this I mean, XYZ company funds a research >>> project in Dr. J's lab. >>> >>> If you would be willing to share your rates with me, I would be >>> willing to compile them and share them back. >>> >>> I am interested in: >>> >>> 1. What F&A rate do you use for research projects funded by industry? >>> >>> 2. What is your federal on-campus research rate? >>> 3. If there is a difference, why? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> Jane >>> Jane A. Youngers >>> Director, Grants Management >>> University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio >>> Mail Code 7828 >>> 7703 Floyd Curl Drive >>> San Antonio TX 78229-3900 >>> 210.567.2333 >>> 210.567.2344 fax >>> xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu > >> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:20:06 -0800 >> From: Samuela Evans <xxxxxx@UCOP.EDU> >> Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors >> >> University of California policy is to use the applicable federal indirect >> cost rate with extramural awards from for-profit sponsors which are not >> clinical trials. The State Auditor has ruled that reductions of indirect >> cost rates to such organizations are a gift of public funds for private >> benefit as the sponsor is not reimbursing the University for the full cost >> of the project. If there is an overriding vital interest reason for the >> University to accept such an award at a rate lower than the applicable >> federally approved rate, then intellectual property considerations must be >> taken into account as the for-profit sponsor should not receive exceptions >> to standard intellectual property rights, a potentially valuable >> consideration, when it is not paying the full costs of the research project. >> >> I believe that there are institutions which apply their actual indirect >> cost rate, one without the 26% admin cap in it, to awards from for-profit >> corporations. > > =================================================================== > Mr. David R. Fielder tel: 415.600.1600 > Vice President, Research fax: 415.600.1753 > California Pacific Medical Center email: xxxxxx@cooper.cpmc.org > Research Institute website: http://www.cpmc.org > 2340 Clay Street, 5th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94115 > =================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:41:08 -0500 > From: "Hastings, Kari L" <xxxxxx@PARTNERS.ORG> > Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors > > I agree - I felt that Samuela put forth a really lucid and rational basis > for their actions in this category. Kari Hastings > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: David R. Fielder [SMTP:xxxxxx@COOPER.CPMC.ORG] >> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM >> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors >> >> All I see is the contradiction, non-profits subsidizing for-profits. >> >> I'm also completely unclear on why one would give a whit regarding any >> "written policy" of the for-profit corporation. >> >> Samuela's response is reassuring (and much better written), but maybe it's >> a California thing? >> >> Rant, rant..... :) Glad it's Friday. >> >> David >> >>> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:52:51 -0500 >>> From: Ruth Tallman <xxxxxx@LEHIGH.EDU> >>> Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors >>> >>> --------------CDDED41CE0BE66D70A8CDC3C >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>> >>> Jane, >>> >>> I will be interested in seeing the responses, too. We use our >>> negotiated rate if we can get away with it. Frequently the industrial >>> sponsor only wants to put up about $50,000 for support of a student, a >>> little PI time, and associated supplies, etc. With full IC, the $50,000 >>> doesn't go very far so we end up negotiating a rate case by case. >>> Totally separate are the research center/liaison program activities >>> which are usually $50,000 or less and are charged at a rate of 12.5% so >>> that the center can use some of the funds to support their staff and >>> expenses. >>> >>> Ruth Tallman >>> Office of Research and Sponsored Programs >>> Lehigh University >>> 526 Brodhead Avenue >>> Bethlehem, PA 18015 >>> Phone: (610)758-3024 >>> FAX: (610)758-5994 >>> E-mail: xxxxxx@lehigh.edu >>> >>> >>> "Youngers, Jane" wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Good afternoon. >>>> >>>> I know that in the past we have compiled information on F&A rates used >>>> in clinical studies sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. But I am >>>> not sure we have compiled information on F&A rates used for industrial >>>> sponsors of research. By this I mean, XYZ company funds a research >>>> project in Dr. J's lab. >>>> >>>> If you would be willing to share your rates with me, I would be >>>> willing to compile them and share them back. >>>> >>>> I am interested in: >>>> >>>> 1. What F&A rate do you use for research projects funded by industry? >>>> >>>> 2. What is your federal on-campus research rate? >>>> 3. If there is a difference, why? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Jane >>>> Jane A. Youngers >>>> Director, Grants Management >>>> University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio >>>> Mail Code 7828 >>>> 7703 Floyd Curl Drive >>>> San Antonio TX 78229-3900 >>>> 210.567.2333 >>>> 210.567.2344 fax >>>> xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu >> >>> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:20:06 -0800 >>> From: Samuela Evans <xxxxxx@UCOP.EDU> >>> Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors >>> >>> University of California policy is to use the applicable federal >> indirect >>> cost rate with extramural awards from for-profit sponsors which are not >>> clinical trials. The State Auditor has ruled that reductions of >> indirect >>> cost rates to such organizations are a gift of public funds for private >>> benefit as the sponsor is not reimbursing the University for the full >> cost >>> of the project. If there is an overriding vital interest reason for >> the >>> University to accept such an award at a rate lower than the applicable >>> federally approved rate, then intellectual property considerations must >> be >>> taken into account as the for-profit sponsor should not receive >> exceptions >>> to standard intellectual property rights, a potentially valuable >>> consideration, when it is not paying the full costs of the research >> project. >>> >>> I believe that there are institutions which apply their actual indirect >>> cost rate, one without the 26% admin cap in it, to awards from >> for-profit >>> corporations. >> >> =================================================================== >> Mr. David R. Fielder tel: 415.600.1600 >> Vice President, Research fax: 415.600.1753 >> California Pacific Medical Center email: xxxxxx@cooper.cpmc.org >> Research Institute website: http://www.cpmc.org >> 2340 Clay Street, 5th Floor >> San Francisco, CA 94115 >> =================================================================== >> >> >> ====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >> ====================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ------------------------------ > > End of RESADM-L Digest - 29 Mar 2001 to 30 Mar 2001 (#2001-63) > ************************************************************** Good cheer. 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