I agree - I felt that Samuela put forth a really lucid and rational basis for their actions in this category. Kari Hastings > -----Original Message----- > From: David R. Fielder [SMTP:xxxxxx@COOPER.CPMC.ORG] > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:08 AM > To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors > > All I see is the contradiction, non-profits subsidizing for-profits. > > I'm also completely unclear on why one would give a whit regarding any > "written policy" of the for-profit corporation. > > Samuela's response is reassuring (and much better written), but maybe it's > a California thing? > > Rant, rant..... :) Glad it's Friday. > > David > > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:52:51 -0500 > > From: Ruth Tallman <xxxxxx@LEHIGH.EDU> > > Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors > > > > --------------CDDED41CE0BE66D70A8CDC3C > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Jane, > > > > I will be interested in seeing the responses, too. We use our > > negotiated rate if we can get away with it. Frequently the industrial > > sponsor only wants to put up about $50,000 for support of a student, a > > little PI time, and associated supplies, etc. With full IC, the $50,000 > > doesn't go very far so we end up negotiating a rate case by case. > > Totally separate are the research center/liaison program activities > > which are usually $50,000 or less and are charged at a rate of 12.5% so > > that the center can use some of the funds to support their staff and > > expenses. > > > > Ruth Tallman > > Office of Research and Sponsored Programs > > Lehigh University > > 526 Brodhead Avenue > > Bethlehem, PA 18015 > > Phone: (610)758-3024 > > FAX: (610)758-5994 > > E-mail: xxxxxx@lehigh.edu > > > > > > "Youngers, Jane" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Good afternoon. > > > > > > I know that in the past we have compiled information on F&A rates used > > > in clinical studies sponsored by pharmaceutical companies. But I am > > > not sure we have compiled information on F&A rates used for industrial > > > sponsors of research. By this I mean, XYZ company funds a research > > > project in Dr. J's lab. > > > > > > If you would be willing to share your rates with me, I would be > > > willing to compile them and share them back. > > > > > > I am interested in: > > > > > > 1. What F&A rate do you use for research projects funded by industry? > > > > > > 2. What is your federal on-campus research rate? > > > 3. If there is a difference, why? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Jane > > > Jane A. Youngers > > > Director, Grants Management > > > University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio > > > Mail Code 7828 > > > 7703 Floyd Curl Drive > > > San Antonio TX 78229-3900 > > > 210.567.2333 > > > 210.567.2344 fax > > > xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu > > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:20:06 -0800 > > From: Samuela Evans <xxxxxx@UCOP.EDU> > > Subject: Re: F&A Rates for Industrial Sponsors > > > > University of California policy is to use the applicable federal > indirect > > cost rate with extramural awards from for-profit sponsors which are not > > clinical trials. The State Auditor has ruled that reductions of > indirect > > cost rates to such organizations are a gift of public funds for private > > benefit as the sponsor is not reimbursing the University for the full > cost > > of the project. If there is an overriding vital interest reason for > the > > University to accept such an award at a rate lower than the applicable > > federally approved rate, then intellectual property considerations must > be > > taken into account as the for-profit sponsor should not receive > exceptions > > to standard intellectual property rights, a potentially valuable > > consideration, when it is not paying the full costs of the research > project. > > > > I believe that there are institutions which apply their actual indirect > > cost rate, one without the 26% admin cap in it, to awards from > for-profit > > corporations. > > =================================================================== > Mr. David R. Fielder tel: 415.600.1600 > Vice President, Research fax: 415.600.1753 > California Pacific Medical Center email: xxxxxx@cooper.cpmc.org > Research Institute website: http://www.cpmc.org > 2340 Clay Street, 5th Floor > San Francisco, CA 94115 > =================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
