Re: RESADM-L Digest - 24 Jan 2001 to 25 Jan 2001 (#2001-18)

Re: RESADM-L Digest - 24 Jan 2001 to 25 Jan 2001 (#2001-18) Browning, Lynzee Engel 26 Jan 2001 13:02 EST
I have an compliance audit job description.  If you want one please email me
directly at xxxxxx@cshs.org.

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> Subject:      RESADM-L Digest - 24 Jan 2001 to 25 Jan 2001 (#2001-18)
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> There are 19 messages totalling 2196 lines in this issue.
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> Topics of the day:
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>   1. increasing external funding (3)
>   2. Job description request -Reply
>   3. Security Officer (3)
>   4. Animals in research (3)
>   5. Apologies
>   6. Cost sharing questions
>   7. NIH Modular Grant Indirect Cost Calculation (2)
>   8. position announcement
>   9. CFO Position for San Francisco Bay Area Non-Profit
>  10. Federal Construction Bids and Subcontracts
>  11. Research-Only Positions
>  12. FIPSE PDF forms
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:27:05 -0500
> From:    "Rebecca J. Sutcliffe" <xxxxxx@CLARKSON.EDU>
> Subject: Re: increasing external funding
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> Janet:
> We recently had an excellent two-day workshop
> here, hosted by a local consortium of public and
> independent four-year and two-year colleges. The
> workshop focused on decision-making and priority-setting,
> as well as assessment of progress toward goals, for
> Department Chairs, Deans and Directors. All attending
> agreed it was an excellent introduction to the ways
> in which educators at all levels can take more
> responsibility for their progress and can be more
> proactive in relations with powers-that-be, whether those powers
> are State Boards of Trustees, legislators, or college presidents.
> The workshop was conducted by three consultants associated
> with the American Council on Education, located not too
> far from where you are. For more info, I'd suggest
> you contact Dr. Irene Hecht, Senior Associate, ACE.
> (xxxxxx@odin.cc.pdx.edu), Dr. Jon Wergin, Professor of
> Educational Studies, VCU (xxxxxx@saturn.vcu.edu), or
> Mary Lou Higgerson, VP Academic Affairs and Dean,
> Baldwin-Wallace College, Berea, OH (440) 826-2251.
> Hope this helps.
> RJS
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:16:24 -0500
> From:    Lee McDaid <xxxxxx@MAIL.TJU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Job description request -Reply
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> I am the Assistant Compliance Officer for Research at Thomas Jefferson
> University in Philadelphia.  I've been in this position for about four
> years.  My position predates the signing of our Integrity Agreement with
> the
> government, although some of my job responsibilities are associated with
> the
> requirements of the agreement.  In response to this request, I'm attaching
> my job description.
>
> Lee Gayle McDaid
> Thomas Jefferson University
> Philadelphia, PA 19107
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> xxxxxx@mail.tju.edu
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> 215-503-0797
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:47:09 -0500
> From:    "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VCU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Security Officer
>
> Our institution has only very recently had reason that one or two pi's
> need to
> handle classified material.  We do not have any institutional security
> clearance, nor the infrastructure to support it.  In each instance our
> agreement is with an industrial concern, and the individual already has a
> security clearance.  We have solved this by having the agreement require
> that the PI's activity involving security material be conducted on the
> sponsor's site, and that no security material be on our site.  Maybe you
> can solve your immediate problem this way.
>
> Infrastructure for institutional security clearance has a cost.  Be sure
> that this is recognized, and someone is committed to footing the bill,
> before getting into that matter.  At a previous institution the
> infrastructure included Security Officer as an ancillary duty for an
> individual in the research office (who already had clearance), a safe
> under
> that individual's control, a "secure" work space that PI's came to, and,
> of
> course, procedures and records.  This was before computers became tools of
> the trade.  (Hmmm. Am I that old?)  If you have to go that way, discuss it
> with experienced colleagues!  This is a compliance matter that has real
> teeth in it.
>
> Chuck
>
>
> At 06:22 PM 1/24/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >Joe;
> >
> >It is not clear to me if you are asking about the industrial security
> >officer of an institution that has a facility clearance or whether the
> Air
> >Force has asked that the campus security office provide information
> >concerning your faculty member for clearance application purposes.  The
> >latter may be the case but I would be surprised since that usually occurs
> in
> >the background investigation that will follow.
> >
> >In a previous University life I was the "Industrial Security Officer",
> and
> >in order for your institution to have/need one you must have a facility
> >clearance issued by a DOD, Energy or other more shadowy federal agency
> (if
> >your University dabbles in this stuff).  This means your institution has
> an
> >active need (defined as contracts in hand that require access to
> classified
> >material).
> >
> >If your institution does not have a facility clearance I don't believe
> you
> >will be able to submit an application for a security clearance for your
> >faculty member.  This must be submitted by and through the Air Force and
> >presumably your faculty member is consulting with them.
> >
> >For more info see the Web site below and enjoy the acronyms.
> >
> >http://www.dss.mil/isec/nispom.htm
> >
> >Gary
> >
> >Gary Chaffins
> >Director, Office of Research Services and Administration
> >5219 University of Oregon
> >Eugene, OR 97403-5219
> >Office: (541) 346-2395
> >Fax: (541) 346-5138
> >e-mail: xxxxxx@orsa.uoregon.edu
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Joe Zelan [mailto:xxxxxx@CSUHAYWARD.EDU]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:04 PM
> >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> >Subject: Security Officer
> >
> >
> >A faculty member is applying for security clearance from the Air Force.
> >He has been instructed to send his application forms to our
> >institution's "Security Officer."  If anyone has such a position in your
> >
> >institution, can you tell me what that person does?  Can you direct me
> >to any guidelines for such a position?
> >
> >
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> Herbert B. Chermside, CRA
> Director, Sponsored Programs Administration
> Virginia Commonwealth University
> PO BOX 980568
> Richmond, VA  23298-0568
> Express Delivery Only:
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>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:12:07 -0500
> From:    Tim Sparklin <xxxxxx@UMBC.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Animals in research
>
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> Try the  Office of Laboratory Animal Welfare (OLAW) (used to be
> OPRR's          Division of Animal Welfare). Web site
> http://grants.nih.gov/grants/olaw/olaw.htm
>
> Tim
>
> Janet Holmberg wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I don't know if this will help any but this is the link to the Public
> > Health Service Policy on Humane Care and Use of Laboratory Animals
> > http://grants.nih.gov/grants/olaw/references/phspol.htm#principle
> >
> > This is their definition of animals:
> > Any live, vertebrate animal used or intended for use in research,
> > research training, experimentation, or biological testing or for
> > related purposes.
> >
> > I'm on the IACUC at my university and we require protocols for work
> > with any vertebrate animals.
> >
> > Janet Holmberg
> > Proposal Services Specialist
> > San Diego State University
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nancy Peterson [mailto:xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:59 PM
> > To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> > Subject: Animals in research
> >
> > Does anyone know where I can get a list of specific animals that are
> > covered by the PHS regulations?
> >
> > I have some faculty "arguing" over the requirements for fish, snakes,
> > birds
> > and iguanas, and I'm not having much luck going through the regs and
> > the
> > Guide....
> >
> >
> >
> *************************************************************************
> >
> > Nancy Kay Peterson
> > Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> > Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> > Winona State University
> > Winona, MN  55987
> >
> > Phone:  507.457.5519
> > Fax:       507.457.2415
> > xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> > http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 08:39:15 -0600
> From:    Lynda Tuck <xxxxxx@SPA.MSSTATE.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Security Officer
>
> I'll be glad to discuss it with you by phone.  You can call me at
> 662-325-0400.
>
> Lynda
>
> Lynda G. Tuck, Special Projects Coordinator
> Mississippi State University
> P. O. Box 6156
> 305 Bowen Hall, Hardy Road
> Mississippi State, MS  39762
> Phone:  662-325-0400
> FAX:  662-325-9133
> e-mail:  xxxxxx@spa.msstate.edu
>
> >>> xxxxxx@CSUHAYWARD.EDU 01/24/01 05:04PM >>>
> A faculty member is applying for security clearance from the Air Force.
> He has been instructed to send his application forms to our
> institution's "Security Officer."  If anyone has such a position in your
>
> institution, can you tell me what that person does?  Can you direct me
> to any guidelines for such a position?
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:07:39 -0600
> From:    Nancy Peterson <xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Animals in research
>
> Thanks for your response!  Can I be more specific?  We have a faculty
> member who simply wants to put an iguana on display.  Do you require a
> protocol for exhibiting animals?
>
> **************************************************************************
>
> Nancy Kay Peterson
> Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> Winona State University
> Winona, MN  55987
>
> Phone:  507.457.5519
> Fax:       507.457.2415
> xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
>
>
>
>                     Janet Holmberg
>                     <xxxxxx@FOUNDATION        To:
> xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>                     .SDSU.EDU>                  cc:
>                     Sent by: Research           Subject:     Re: Animals
> in research
>                     Administration List
>                     <xxxxxx@hrinet.org
>                     >
>
>
>                     01/24/01 04:24 PM
>                     Please respond to
>                     Research
>                     Administration
>                     Discussion List
>
>
>
>
>
> I don't know if this will help any but this is the link to the Public
> Health Service Policy on Humane Care and Use of Laboratory Animals
> http://grants.nih.gov/grants/olaw/references/phspol.htm#principle
>
>
> This is their definition of animals:
> Any live, vertebrate animal used or intended for use in research, research
> training, experimentation, or biological testing or for related purposes.
>
>
> I'm on the IACUC at my university and we require protocols for work with
> any vertebrate animals.
>
>
> Janet Holmberg
> Proposal Services Specialist
> San Diego State University
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Peterson [mailto:xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 1:59 PM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Animals in research
>
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a list of specific animals that are
> covered by the PHS regulations?
>
>
> I have some faculty "arguing" over the requirements for fish, snakes,
> birds
>
> and iguanas, and I'm not having much luck going through the regs and the
> Guide....
>
>
> **************************************************************************
>
>
> Nancy Kay Peterson
> Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> Winona State University
> Winona, MN  55987
>
>
> Phone:  507.457.5519
> Fax:       507.457.2415
> xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:08:15 -0600
> From:    Nancy Peterson <xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Animals in research
>
> Thanks for your response!  Can I be more specific?  We have a faculty
> member who simply wants to put an iguana on display.  Do you require a
> protocol for exhibiting animals?
>
> **************************************************************************
>
> Nancy Kay Peterson
> Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> Winona State University
> Winona, MN  55987
>
> Phone:  507.457.5519
> Fax:       507.457.2415
> xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
>
>
>
>                     CREA
>                     CATHARINE            To:     xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
>                     <xxxxxx@NYMC.ED        cc:
>                     U>                   Subject:     Re: Animals in
> research
>                     Sent by:
>                     Research
>                     Administratio
>                     n List
>                     <xxxxxx@hri
>                     net.org>
>
>
>                     01/24/01
>                     04:33 PM
>                     Please
>                     respond to
>                     Research
>                     Administratio
>                     n Discussion
>                     List
>
>
>
>
>
> Nancy,
>
> I don't know that there is a list but the regs apply to VERTEBRATE
> animals.
> For example,
> our IACUC reviews projects involving fish but not leeches.
>
> Catharine Crea
> Associate Dean for Research Administration
> New York Medical College
> Valhalla, New York 10595
> phone:  (914)594-4480
> fax:  (914)594-4694
> email:  xxxxxx@nymc.edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nancy Peterson [mailto:xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Animals in research
>
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a list of specific animals that are
> covered by the PHS regulations?
>
> I have some faculty "arguing" over the requirements for fish, snakes,
> birds
> and iguanas, and I'm not having much luck going through the regs and the
> Guide....
>
> **************************************************************************
>
> Nancy Kay Peterson
> Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> Winona State University
> Winona, MN  55987
>
> Phone:  507.457.5519
> Fax:       507.457.2415
> xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:18:29 -0600
> From:    Nancy Peterson <xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU>
> Subject: Apologies
>
> I'm so sorry.  I inadvertently sent my response to people who had
> responded
> to my question on animals out to the whole list instead of cutting and
> pasting the individual mailing addresses.  Which means you all got several
> copies of the same message.
>
> Sorry.  I know better.  Just not thinking this morning.  Must have iguanas
> on the brain.  :-(
>
> **************************************************************************
>
> Nancy Kay Peterson
> Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects
> Somsen Hall Room 202-C
> Winona State University
> Winona, MN  55987
>
> Phone:  507.457.5519
> Fax:       507.457.2415
> xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu
> http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 09:09:39 -0800
> From:    Joe Zelan <xxxxxx@CSUHAYWARD.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Security Officer
>
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> Jim:
>
> Thanks for the reply.  Since we don't have such an AVP it looks like the
> provost will have to do it.
>
> Joe
>
> "James R. Brett" wrote:
>
> > Joe,
> >
> > I can't imagine that they mean the Chief of Police (or whatever you call
> > that official).  I would send it to the AVP for Faculty Personnel.
> >
> > Jim
> >
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:47:37 -0600
> From:    "Quinn, Bradley L" <xxxxxx@OU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Cost sharing questions
>
> We rarely use volunteer (in-kind) effort for cost sharing.  When we do,
> the
> documentation criteria in section .__23d, A-110 are followed.  We will
> allow
> a reasonable benefits and payroll taxes allowance and apply the
> appropriate
> University's indirect cost rate, subject to the awarding agency approval
> in
> .__23b, A-110.  The donated labor and benefits would be included in the
> MTDC
> base.
>
>
>
>
> From: John D. Pepe [mailto:xxxxxx@STROUDCENTER.ORG]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:04 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: Cost sharing questions
>
>
> Craig -
>
> My understanding related to your scenario:
>
> First, volunteer time supported by a valid effort reporting time/log sheet
> would be acceptable as an in-kind match.  Also, the value of volunteer
> services provided should be determined by the prevailing wage paid for
> similar duties performed, and is not necessarily limited to minimum wage.
>
> Secondly, even though volunteer wages are not expensed in the accounting
> system, F&A on this amount can still be determined and recognized as cost
> share.  The value of "material" volunteer services enters the F&A mix when
> the rate is determined/negotiated with the federal cognizant agency since
> it
> becomes a component of the denominator in determining the rate.
>
> John D. Pepe
> Controller
> Stroud Water Research Center
> 970 Spencer Road
> Avondale, PA 19311-9514
>
> Voice: (610) 268-2153, ext. 253 Fax: (610) 268-0490 E-mail:
> xxxxxx@stroudcenter.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On Behalf
> Of Craig Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 8:12 AM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Cost sharing questions
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've posed these questions to a number of folks in my region and have
> received some, uh, "wildly divergent" answers.  So, I'm going to put the
> issues to the broader RESADM community.
>
> First, the scenario: a Project Director needs to supply a 1:1 match on a
> non-research grant and wants to know if she may count her students'
> volunteer time on the project as an in-kind match.  It's worth noting
> that the students aren't being paid, either with agency or university
> funds, although such pay would be considered an allowable and necessary
> direct cost.  So, given there's nothing in the accounting system that
> could substantiate the effort, can we use this as in-kind cost share,
> provided we document the effort in a log and value it at minimum wage?
> (Personally, I'm real uncomfortable with this, but some folks have
> assured me that this practice has even survived an audit.)
>
> Second, I'm still confused as ever about using unrecovered F&A as cost
> sharing.  I know that under A-110 Section 23 it is an allowable practice
> provided prior agency approval is given, but I'm confused about the
> implications of such a practice vis-a-vis A-21.  As in the above
> scenario, there is nothing in the accounting system that would
> substantiate the cost share.  Or am I missing something here?  Moreover,
> wouldn't the unrecovered F&A used as cost sharing have to be taken out
> of F&A pool for future F&A negotiations?
>
> I appreciate your collective thoughts/wisdom on this!  I've read A-110
> and A-21 a number of times and still am not sure of the answers.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig
>
> --
> Craig Reynolds / Office of Research and Sponsored Programs /
> Foust 251 / Central Michigan Univ. / Mt. Pleasant, MI 48859 /
> T: (517) 774-3859 / F: (517) 774-3438 / E: xxxxxx@cmich.edu
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:54:44 -0600
> From:    "Quinn, Bradley L" <xxxxxx@OU.EDU>
> Subject: Re: NIH Modular Grant Indirect Cost Calculation
>
> We do not open accounts without an operating budget.  Under our generic
> IPAS
> system, it is easy to change the budget (e-mail, memo, etc.) at any time.
> Good business would dictate that an institution get a budget at the time
> the
> proposal is submitted.  The modular award saves NIH time and money but
> doesn't do much for the rest of us.
>
> Brad Quinn
> Director, Project Support Office
> Director, CENTER for Grant and Contract Studies
> University of Oklahoma
> 660 Parrington Oval, Room 324
> Norman, OK 73019
> (405) 325-7091 voice
> (405) 325-0165 fax
> xxxxxx@ou.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Herbert B. Chermside [mailto:xxxxxx@VCU.EDU]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 2:41 PM
> To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> Subject: Re: NIH Modular Grant Indirect Cost Calculation
>
>
> The fundamental problem is that the program and award side of NIH wanted
> simplicity in the award, while the accounting and audit minded did not get
> persuaded to change language related to allowabilty.  There are a lot of
> conceptual positives, especially for program folk and PI's (while wearing
> their scientist hats). but getting only half the equation changed creates
> negatives for administrators: complexity, and an increased perception by
> faculty members of bureaucratic obstructionism.  So, what's new?
>
> We have developed a useful budget preparation tool for PI's: a spread
> sheet
> that displays the average annual TDC in big numbers.  We ask the PI to use
> that in preparing the budget; we emphasize the advantage of "cut and try"
> in developing the budget.  Every number needed for filling in blanks
> required for the modular budget proposal is there.  Then we ask the PI to
> bring a copy of the spread sheet with the proposal for review.  We can
> review that budget in a flash, because we know the right assumptions and
> relationships are built in.
>
> Look at it at
> http://views.vcu.edu/ospa/budgetsheet.htm
>
> We can provide a copy on request, with the security code (which locks the
> standard rates in) removed.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 10:22 AM 1/24/01 -0500, you wrote:
> >We also require our investigators to submit a detailed budget for the
> first
> >year and entire period.  This allows the investigator to think about his
> or
> >her project and create a detailed plan for the personnel and
> >supplies/equipment needed.  It allows the grants office to comment on the
> >budget and see how it relates to the study.  Also, if the study is
> funded,
> >both the investigator and the grants office have a written budget for the
> >project.
> >
> >Of course, it is useful for calculating the IDC, especially if the
> >institution has a rate based on only salaries and wages or if there is
> >capital equipment included in the budget.
> >
> >We take the IDC and add it to the total module, i.e..  Module = $100,000,
> >IDC = $38,432.  So Direct = 100,000  Total = $138,432
> >
> >Alex
> >Winthrop-University Hospital
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG]On Behalf
> >Of Jon Hart
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 9:32 AM
> >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
> >Subject: Re: NIH Modular Grant Indirect Cost Calculation
> >
> >
> >Julia,
> >This is exactly the Catch 22 of the modular grant application.  You have
> to
> >know the budget to calculate the indirect costs, but NIH doesn't want to
> >know, and if NIH doesn't want to know there may be resistance from your
> >investigators when you ask them to supply a detailed budget.  Yes, you do
> >indeed have to make the calculation the same as you would a "regular"
> >budget, subtracting equipment, patient care costs, etc., according to
> your
> >indirect cost agreement.  (N.B. - NIH doesn't want to know not because
> they
> >don't want you to figure the budget, but because they don't want the peer
> >review committee to concentrate on the budget at the expense of the
> >science; at least this is how it was explained to me by an NIH rep.)
> >
> >We have solved this problem (so far) by asking our investigators to
> >continue to supply us with a budget.  We have posted a "modular grant
> >budget worksheet" on our web page which asks for the following for each
> >year of the proposed budget:
> >dates of the proposed study
> >each person to be paid from the grant and % effort (we figure out the
> >salary from this);
> >a total for each NIH budget line (consultants, supplies, equipment, etc.)
> >We have a button on the bottom of the page that will automatically e-mail
> >the budget to us.
> >If the investigator prefers to give us hard copy, we ask them to fill out
> >the NIH budget sheets (forms DD and EE of the 398 kit).
> >Not only do we need to know the budget to figure the indirect costs, we
> >also have to make sure that the investigator is asking for enough money
> to
> >cover all the salaries and other expenses -- a guesstimate on his/her
> part
> >is not good enough for us.  We also have to be able to set up the budget,
> >once awarded, in our accounting system, which requires a line item
> >breakdown.
> >We haven't had much trouble with our faculty about this.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >Joni.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 04:04 PM 1/23/01 -0500, you wrote:
> > >I would like to know how some of you calculate your Indirect Cost Rate
> on
> > >NIH modular grants.  Basically I'm getting some conflicting
> information.
> > >Since the budgets are simplied to increments of $25,000, I believe that
> you
> > >would use your negotiated IDC rate on the Total Direct Costs [i.e
> >requesting
> > >$50,000 Direct Costs X .40 IDC rate = $70,000 Total Request], then
> after
> > >award, the IDC would be adjusted as needed per the detailed budget.
> [We
> > >normally calculate our IDC based on Total Modified Direct Costs.]
> > >However some say that I need to subtract the equipment and contractual
> > >amount before calculating on the grant.  To me, this is defeating the
> > >purpose of the modular budget.
> > >
> > >I realize this is simple, but any feedback for a rookie is appreciated.
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >Julia G. Borchers
> > >Grants & Contract Specialist
> > >Marshall University Research Corporation
> > >
> > >
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> >1230 York Ave.-Box 82, NY, NY 10021-6399
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>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 12:35:46 -0600
> From:    Barry Brady <xxxxxx@UAMS.EDU>
> Subject: position announcement
>
> Research Administrator: Arkansas Children's Hospital Research Institute in
> Little Rock, Ark. seeks a professional research administrator with at
> least
> 4 years experience in pre-award services and a B.S. or a B.A. with a
> concentration in business or science. Certification in Research
> Administration (CRA) or Master's preferred. Must have expert knowledge of
> federal regulations regarding grants and expert knowledge of the grant
> submission procedures of most extramural funding agencies. Extensive
> experience particularly with the extramural granting and awarding
> procedures
> of the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the United States
> Department
> of Agriculture (USDA) preferred. Solid understanding of the regulations
> regarding the protection of humans and animals in research and other
> research administration issues such as managing conflicts of interest,
> intellectual property, contracting, regulation of rDNA in research, and
> biohazards safety.  Demonstrated experience working with medical faculty
> and
> the faculty of a large university system. Must be a self-starter and have
> the ability to mobilize people in a matrix environment consisting of more
> than one legal entity. Call Kimberly Hopkins for more information
> (501)320-2856.
>
>
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>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:51:36 -0800
> From:    Samuela Evans <xxxxxx@UCOP.EDU>
> Subject: CFO Position for San Francisco Bay Area Non-Profit
>
> <html>
> I am resubmitting this position opening to the listserv as I understand
> the earlier version was illegible.&nbsp; <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times"><b><blockquote type=cite cite><div
> align="center">
> Job Description<br>
> </font></b></div>
> <br>
> Position:</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <b>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">Chief</font>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">Financial Officer</font></b> <br>
> <br>
> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times"><b>Program</font></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs
> p; <font face="Times New Roman, Times">A well-established, expanding
> non-profit agency providing</font> <br>
> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times"><b>Description:</font></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font face="Times New
> Roman, Times">information/referral, translation, and disaster-related
> services to homeless individuals, families, and others seeking services in
> Alameda County.<br>
> </font><br>
> <b>Position</b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font
> face="Times New Roman, Times">Under the direction of the Executive
> Director, the Chief Financial Officer is</font> <br>
> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times"><b>Description:</font></b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <font face="Times New
> Roman, Times">responsible for the general business management of the
> Agency including, but not limited to:</font> <br>
> <br>
> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <u> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times">Financial Management</u>:</font> <font face="Times New Roman,
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> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
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> <li>Develop, prepare, and monitor annual agency and program budgets</font>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Prepare special budgets for grant proposals based on format and
> information requested for each particular contractor or donor</font> <font
> face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Prepare financial variance reports
> <li>Prepare and update cash flow analysis reports and projections</font>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
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> face="Times New Roman, Times">
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> <li>Monitor and work with financial institutions regarding investment
> funds and accounts, transferring of funds, etc.</font> <font face="Times
> New Roman, Times">
> <li>Coordinate agency audits with an outside CPA</font>
> </ul>
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> </ul>
> </ul>
> </ul>
> </ul>
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> Times">Accounting:</u>:</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
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> <li>Act as back-up for payroll and accounts payable processing</font>
> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Review payroll and accounts payable checks for coding, reasonableness,
> and accuracy</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Working knowledge of double-entry accrual accounting</font> <font
> face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Perform bank reconciliations</font> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times">
> <li>Prepare bills/invoices for grants and contracts</font> <font
> face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Prepare financial and project reports</font> <font face="Times New
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> <li>Prepare agency tax, informational, and employer returns</font>
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> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
> <ul>
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> agencies regarding contracts</font>
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> </ul>
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> <font face="Times New Roman,
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> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">General Business
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> <font face="Times New Roman, Times"><b>Description:&nbsp;&nbsp;
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> x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab></b>Research
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> <ul>
> <ul>
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> inventory control of supplies, equipment, office furniture, and other
> Agency assets</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
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> trainings, etc.</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Develop and improve forms used for agency operations</font>
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> </ul>
> </ul>
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> <ul>
> <ul>
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> needed</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
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> </ul>
> </ul>
> </ul>
> </ul>
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> <li>May also assist the Executive Director with the overall management,
> planning, and development of the Agency, and may act on behalf of the
> Executive Director at his/her delegation.</font> <font face="Times New
> Roman, Times">
> <li>Other duties as assigned</font>
> </ul><font face="Times New Roman,
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> <font face="Times New Roman,
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> agency&nbsp; </font><br>
> <b>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </b><font face="Times New Roman,
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> <ul>
> <li>Knowledge of requirements for 501c(3) organizations and government
> contractors</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Supervisory experience preferred</font> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times">
> <li>Demonstrated capabilities in the areas defined in the job
> description</font> <font face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Excellent organizational and time management skills</font> <font
> face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Good oral and written communications skills</font> <font face="Times
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> face="Times New Roman, Times">
> <li>Excellent problem-solving skills</font> <font face="Times New Roman,
> Times">
> <li>&nbsp;Must be computer literate with current expertise in PC Windows
> software&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (especially MS Office);&nbsp;
> familiarity with Great Plains accounting software
> <li>&nbsp; Bachelor's Degree from an accredited college or university in
> business&nbsp;&nbsp; accounting, public administration or related
> field</font>
> </ul>&nbsp;<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><font
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:11:22 -0500
> From:    Peter Koch <xxxxxx@CHMCC.ORG>
> Subject: Re: NIH Modular Grant Indirect Cost Calculation
>
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> Dear colleagues:
>
> Did anyone else notice that today's Washington Fax indicated NIH was =
> reevaluating Modular Grants for purposes of "tweaking" the process yet =
> again?  Among other issues, it seems peer reviewers have expressed =
> concerns about not seeing other support at time of proposal submission.  =
> This follows recent changes to the process that expanded required budget =
> narrative to include all personnel rather than just "key" personnel.  Add
> =
> this to the "extra" indirect calculations required on the checklist page =
> and the fact that seemingly most institutions still require a detailed =
> budget for internal purposes, and you have to wonder whether anyone really
> =
> gained anything here.
>
>   -  Pete
>
>
>
> Peter C. Koch, MBA
> Director, Research Sponsored Programs
> Pediatrics and Research Administration
> Children's Hospital Medical Center
> 3333 Burnet Avenue, TCHRF-3323
> Cincinnati, Ohio  45229-3039
>
> Phone:  (513) 636-4583
> Fax:  (513) 636-8453
> E-mail:  xxxxxx@chmcc.org
>
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D1>Did anyone else notice that today's Washington=20
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:08:23 -0500
> From:    Barbara Gray <xxxxxx@COFC.EDU>
> Subject: Re: increasing external funding
>
> Janet and all,
>
> What a timely topic!  We are facing similar financial problems in South
> Carolina.
>
> In response to your second question about faculty surveying to identify
> incentives
> and disincentives, I have plans to do a similar activity on our campus.
> Some
> months ago, I issued a similar request on RESADM and received many
> responses.  I
> also looked through old issues of the SRA Journal and NCURA's Research
> Management
> Review and through old handouts from NCURA meeting presentations.
> Although I have
> not yet had the opportunity to study any of them in detail, I came up with
> a
> number of documents that may be helpful in planning and developing such a
> survey.
> I don't feel I can copy and pass on the surveys and meeting handouts I've
> collected because they are someone else's intellectual property, but I can
> tell
> you where I got them and perhaps you and others who are interested in this
> topic
> can contact these sources directly.
>
> Actual Survey Instruments:
> 1. Dianne Miller - University of Tennessee- Chattanooga
> 2. Jackie Givens - Kennesaw State University- "Faculty Survey to Assess
> KSU
> Support for Sponsored Research/Scholarly Activities"
> 3. "Institutional Assessment Matrix for Sponsored Programs" - (copyright
> 1966) -
> Julie Cole, Wake Forest University, Pam Whitlock, University of North
> Carolina-Wilmington, and Bob Killoren (Penn State)
> 4. "Mississippi Research Consortium Research Environment Survey" and
> "Research/Creative Activity Attitude and Support Survey"  - Lauriston
> King, The
> University of Southern Mississippi
>
> SRA Journal:
> 1. "Factors Influencing Grant Writing: Perceptions of Tenured and
> Non-Tenured
> Faculty" - Patricia Boyer and Irv Cockriel, Spring 1998
> 2. "Faculty Attitudes Toward Involvement in Grant-Related Activities at a
> Predominantly Undergraduate Institution" - Anne Sterner, Winter/Spring
> 1999
>
> NCURA Research Management Review (I don't have dates handy but NCURA
> hopefully
> will have an index):
> 1. "Survey on the Status of Evaluation Activities in College and
> University
> Pre-award Research Administration Offices: Frequency and Type" - Sharon K.
> Davis
> and Peggy S. Lowry
> 2. "The Multiple Effects of Influencing External Funding Productivity" -
> Jon J.
> sDenton & Frances A. Hunter
> 3. "Success in External Funding at the Fastest Growing Research
> Universities:
> Contributory Factors and Impediments" - Gerald J. Stahler and William R.
> Tash
> (Apring 1992)
> 4. "A Survey of Grant and Contract Activity in Colleges of Education" -
> Sharon K.
> Davis and James P. O'Hanlon
> 5. "Barriers and Inducements to Grant Related Activity by a College of
> Education
> Faculty" - Larry M. Dooley (1995?)
>
> Various NCURA presentations (sorry, I don't know when or where many
> presented, but
> the powerpoint slides discuss some areas that one may wish to consider in
> designing a survey)
>
> 1. "Assessing Research Administration," Julie Cole, Wake Forest University
> 2. "Performance Measurement and Assessment," Betsy Gray, University of
> Central
> Florida
> 3. "The Right Ingredients for Effective Management in Your Office and On
> Your
> Campus" - Robert Lowman, University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
> 4. "Collaborating - Taking the Lead with Faculty" - Frances Jeffries,
> Bridgewater
> State College and Terry Manns, California State University, Sacramento
> 5. "Faculty Research Committees: Building Bridges" - Pat Buennemeyer,
> James
> Madison University, NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting, April
> 2000
> 6. "Looking Inside Out: Self-Evaluation Models for the PUI Research
> Administration
> Office" - Clifford Shisler. Northern Kentucky University, Peggy Lowry,
> Murray
> State University, and Ann McGuigan, Illinois State University
> 7. "Advocacy and Research Administration" - Patricia Buennemeyer, James
> Madison
> University, and Deborah Walz, University of Central Arkansas
> 8. "Applying Benchmarking to Sponsored Programs Administration" - Paul G.
> Waugaman
> and Louis G. Tornatzky (Technology Commercialization Group, LLC) and
> William S.
> Kirby (KPMG Consulting), NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting,
> April 2000
>
> Other:
> 1. "Results of the James Madison University Office of Sponsored Programs
> Institutional -Assessment Survey" - Patricia Buennemeyer, James Madison
> University, June 1998
> 2. Summary of Survey Research Study "Factors Influencing Grant and
> contract
> Activity in Master's I Universities" - Emilie S. Kane, East Carolina
> University
>
> I would certainly be interested in learning about other surveys that have
> been
> done and seeing those survey instruments, too.
>
> Barbara
> --
> ==================================================================
> Barbara H. Gray, Director
> Office of Research & Grants Administration
> College of Charleston
> 66 George Street
> Charleston, SC  29424
> Campus Location:  407-G Bell Bldg.
> Office: 843.953.5673  Desk: 843.953.5885  Fax:  843.953.6577
> e-mail:  xxxxxx@cofc.edu   URL: http://www.orga.cofc.edu/
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>
> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 14:47:08 -0600
> From:    Susan Ross <xxxxxx@GSA-ORSP.CROWN.NWU.EDU>
> Subject: Federal Construction Bids and Subcontracts
>
> Greetings,
>
> We're looking for sample bid forms used for federally funded
> construction projects, as well as a sample construction subcontract
> that incorporates all the standard federal regulations. If you have
> either of these and are willing to share, please send them to me at
> xxxxxx@northwestern.edu. I will in turn summarize the responses for
> the listserv. Thanks!
>
> Sue Ross
>
>
> *****************************************************
> Sue Ross
> Associate Director
> Office of Research and Sponsored Programs
> Northwestern University
> (847) 491-4236
> FAX: (847) 491-4800
> http://nuinfo.nwu.edu/orsp/index.html
> *****************************************************
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 16:30:02 EST
> From:    Imeh Ebong <xxxxxx@NUNET.NEU.EDU>
> Subject: Research-Only Positions
>
> Our University is seeking information on research-only positions supported
> entirely by external funds, whether classified as faculty or professional
> positions.  We are particularly interested in non-tenure track research
> positions where the researcher has a professorial title with the
> possibility
> of change in rank.  Do you classify these positions as faculty or
> professional
> staff?  How do you appoint and promote these researchers?  What is their
> role
> within the academic units?
>
> Please do not respond to the entire group, send your response directly to
> me.
> If there is a general interest among members of the list regarding these
> questions I will be glad to share the responses.
>
> Imeh Ebong, Ph. D.
> Director, Division of Research Development
> Northeastern University
> Boston, MA 02115-5000
>
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> Fax: (617) 373-8866
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 15:55:40 -0600
> From:    Glenn Krell <xxxxxx@IIT.EDU>
> Subject: Re: increasing external funding
>
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>
> Wow, what a great list!  I'd suggest one more:
> "Ten Heads Work Better Than One: An Innovative Model for Collaborative,
> College-Wide Grant Writing," Linda M. Easter and Eileen L. Shultz, NCURA
> Research Management Review Vol. 10, No 1, Winter 1998.  The authors
> increased proposals and awards using this model.
> - Glenn
> At 03:08 PM 1/25/01, Barbara H. Gray wrote:
> >Janet and all,
> >
> >What a timely topic!  We are facing similar financial problems in South
> >Carolina.
> >
> >In response to your second question about faculty surveying to identify
> >incentives
> >and disincentives, I have plans to do a similar activity on our campus.
> Some
> >months ago, I issued a similar request on RESADM and received many
> >responses.  I
> >also looked through old issues of the SRA Journal and NCURA's Research
> >Management
> >Review and through old handouts from NCURA meeting
> >presentations.  Although I have
> >not yet had the opportunity to study any of them in detail, I came up
> with a
> >number of documents that may be helpful in planning and developing such a
> >survey.
> >I don't feel I can copy and pass on the surveys and meeting handouts I've
> >collected because they are someone else's intellectual property, but I
> can
> >tell
> >you where I got them and perhaps you and others who are interested in
> this
> >topic
> >can contact these sources directly.
> >
> >Actual Survey Instruments:
> >1. Dianne Miller - University of Tennessee- Chattanooga
> >2. Jackie Givens - Kennesaw State University- "Faculty Survey to Assess
> KSU
> >Support for Sponsored Research/Scholarly Activities"
> >3. "Institutional Assessment Matrix for Sponsored Programs" - (copyright
> >1966) -
> >Julie Cole, Wake Forest University, Pam Whitlock, University of North
> >Carolina-Wilmington, and Bob Killoren (Penn State)
> >4. "Mississippi Research Consortium Research Environment Survey" and
> >"Research/Creative Activity Attitude and Support Survey"  - Lauriston
> >King, The
> >University of Southern Mississippi
> >
> >SRA Journal:
> >1. "Factors Influencing Grant Writing: Perceptions of Tenured and
> Non-Tenured
> >Faculty" - Patricia Boyer and Irv Cockriel, Spring 1998
> >2. "Faculty Attitudes Toward Involvement in Grant-Related Activities at a
> >Predominantly Undergraduate Institution" - Anne Sterner, Winter/Spring
> 1999
> >
> >NCURA Research Management Review (I don't have dates handy but NCURA
> hopefully
> >will have an index):
> >1. "Survey on the Status of Evaluation Activities in College and
> University
> >Pre-award Research Administration Offices: Frequency and Type" - Sharon
> K.
> >Davis
> >and Peggy S. Lowry
> >2. "The Multiple Effects of Influencing External Funding Productivity" -
> >Jon J.
> >sDenton & Frances A. Hunter
> >3. "Success in External Funding at the Fastest Growing Research
> Universities:
> >Contributory Factors and Impediments" - Gerald J. Stahler and William R.
> Tash
> >(Apring 1992)
> >4. "A Survey of Grant and Contract Activity in Colleges of Education" -
> >Sharon K.
> >Davis and James P. O'Hanlon
> >5. "Barriers and Inducements to Grant Related Activity by a College of
> >Education
> >Faculty" - Larry M. Dooley (1995?)
> >
> >Various NCURA presentations (sorry, I don't know when or where many
> >presented, but
> >the powerpoint slides discuss some areas that one may wish to consider in
> >designing a survey)
> >
> >1. "Assessing Research Administration," Julie Cole, Wake Forest
> University
> >2. "Performance Measurement and Assessment," Betsy Gray, University of
> Central
> >Florida
> >3. "The Right Ingredients for Effective Management in Your Office and On
> Your
> >Campus" - Robert Lowman, University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
> >4. "Collaborating - Taking the Lead with Faculty" - Frances Jeffries,
> >Bridgewater
> >State College and Terry Manns, California State University, Sacramento
> >5. "Faculty Research Committees: Building Bridges" - Pat Buennemeyer,
> James
> >Madison University, NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting, April
> 2000
> >6. "Looking Inside Out: Self-Evaluation Models for the PUI Research
> >Administration
> >Office" - Clifford Shisler. Northern Kentucky University, Peggy Lowry,
> Murray
> >State University, and Ann McGuigan, Illinois State University
> >7. "Advocacy and Research Administration" - Patricia Buennemeyer, James
> >Madison
> >University, and Deborah Walz, University of Central Arkansas
> >8. "Applying Benchmarking to Sponsored Programs Administration" - Paul G.
> >Waugaman
> >and Louis G. Tornatzky (Technology Commercialization Group, LLC) and
> >William S.
> >Kirby (KPMG Consulting), NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting,
> >April 2000
> >
> >Other:
> >1. "Results of the James Madison University Office of Sponsored Programs
> >Institutional -Assessment Survey" - Patricia Buennemeyer, James Madison
> >University, June 1998
> >2. Summary of Survey Research Study "Factors Influencing Grant and
> contract
> >Activity in Master's I Universities" - Emilie S. Kane, East Carolina
> >University
> >
> >I would certainly be interested in learning about other surveys that have
> been
> >done and seeing those survey instruments, too.
> >
> >Barbara
> >--
> >==================================================================
> >Barbara H. Gray, Director
> >Office of Research & Grants Administration
> >College of Charleston
> >66 George Street
> >Charleston, SC  29424
> >Campus Location:  407-G Bell Bldg.
> >Office: 843.953.5673  Desk: 843.953.5885  Fax:  843.953.6577
> >e-mail:  xxxxxx@cofc.edu   URL: http://www.orga.cofc.edu/
> =======================
> Glenn Krell BA, CRA
> Director, Research Proposal Development
> Illinois Institute of Technology
> 3300 South Federal Street, M/B 301
> Chicago, Illinois 60616
> 312-567-7141 (voice)
> 312-567-7517 (fax)
> email: xxxxxx@iit.edu
>
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> Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
>
> <html>
> <font size=3>Wow, what a great list!&nbsp; I'd suggest one more:<br>
> &quot;Ten Heads Work Better Than One: An Innovative Model for
> Collaborative, College-Wide Grant Writing,&quot; Linda M. Easter and
> Eileen L. Shultz, NCURA Research Management Review Vol. 10, No 1, Winter
> 1998.&nbsp; The authors increased proposals and awards using this
> model.<br>
> - Glenn<br>
> At 03:08 PM 1/25/01, Barbara H. Gray wrote:<br>
> <blockquote type=cite cite>Janet and all,<br>
> <br>
> What a timely topic!&nbsp; We are facing similar financial problems in
> South Carolina.<br>
> <br>
> In response to your second question about faculty surveying to identify
> incentives<br>
> and disincentives, I have plans to do a similar activity on our
> campus.&nbsp; Some<br>
> months ago, I issued a similar request on RESADM and received many
> responses.&nbsp; I<br>
> also looked through old issues of the SRA Journal and NCURA's Research
> Management<br>
> Review and through old handouts from NCURA meeting presentations.&nbsp;
> Although I have<br>
> not yet had the opportunity to study any of them in detail, I came up
> with a<br>
> number of documents that may be helpful in planning and developing such a
> survey.<br>
> I don't feel I can copy and pass on the surveys and meeting handouts
> I've<br>
> collected because they are someone else's intellectual property, but I
> can tell<br>
> you where I got them and perhaps you and others who are interested in
> this topic<br>
> can contact these sources directly.<br>
> <br>
> Actual Survey Instruments:<br>
> 1. Dianne Miller - University of Tennessee- Chattanooga<br>
> 2. Jackie Givens - Kennesaw State University- &quot;Faculty Survey to
> Assess KSU<br>
> Support for Sponsored Research/Scholarly Activities&quot;<br>
> 3. &quot;Institutional Assessment Matrix for Sponsored Programs&quot; -
> (copyright 1966) -<br>
> Julie Cole, Wake Forest University, Pam Whitlock, University of
> North<br>
> Carolina-Wilmington, and Bob Killoren (Penn State)<br>
> 4. &quot;Mississippi Research Consortium Research Environment
> Survey&quot; and<br>
> &quot;Research/Creative Activity Attitude and Support Survey&quot;&nbsp;
> - Lauriston King, The<br>
> University of Southern Mississippi<br>
> <br>
> SRA Journal:<br>
> 1. &quot;Factors Influencing Grant Writing: Perceptions of Tenured and
> Non-Tenured<br>
> Faculty&quot; - Patricia Boyer and Irv Cockriel, Spring 1998<br>
> 2. &quot;Faculty Attitudes Toward Involvement in Grant-Related Activities
> at a<br>
> Predominantly Undergraduate Institution&quot; - Anne Sterner,
> Winter/Spring 1999<br>
> <br>
> NCURA Research Management Review (I don't have dates handy but NCURA
> hopefully<br>
> will have an index):<br>
> 1. &quot;Survey on the Status of Evaluation Activities in College and
> University<br>
> Pre-award Research Administration Offices: Frequency and Type&quot; -
> Sharon K. Davis<br>
> and Peggy S. Lowry<br>
> 2. &quot;The Multiple Effects of Influencing External Funding
> Productivity&quot; - Jon J.<br>
> sDenton &amp; Frances A. Hunter<br>
> 3. &quot;Success in External Funding at the Fastest Growing Research
> Universities:<br>
> Contributory Factors and Impediments&quot; - Gerald J. Stahler and
> William R. Tash<br>
> (Apring 1992)<br>
> 4. &quot;A Survey of Grant and Contract Activity in Colleges of
> Education&quot; - Sharon K.<br>
> Davis and James P. O'Hanlon<br>
> 5. &quot;Barriers and Inducements to Grant Related Activity by a College
> of Education<br>
> Faculty&quot; - Larry M. Dooley (1995?)<br>
> <br>
> Various NCURA presentations (sorry, I don't know when or where many
> presented, but<br>
> the powerpoint slides discuss some areas that one may wish to consider
> in<br>
> designing a survey)<br>
> <br>
> 1. &quot;Assessing Research Administration,&quot; Julie Cole, Wake Forest
> University<br>
> 2. &quot;Performance Measurement and Assessment,&quot; Betsy Gray,
> University of Central<br>
> Florida<br>
> 3. &quot;The Right Ingredients for Effective Management in Your Office
> and On Your<br>
> Campus&quot; - Robert Lowman, University of North Carolina-Chapel
> Hill<br>
> 4. &quot;Collaborating - Taking the Lead with Faculty&quot; - Frances
> Jeffries, Bridgewater<br>
> State College and Terry Manns, California State University,
> Sacramento<br>
> 5. &quot;Faculty Research Committees: Building Bridges&quot; - Pat
> Buennemeyer, James<br>
> Madison University, NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting, April
> 2000<br>
> 6. &quot;Looking Inside Out: Self-Evaluation Models for the PUI Research
> Administration<br>
> Office&quot; - Clifford Shisler. Northern Kentucky University, Peggy
> Lowry, Murray<br>
> State University, and Ann McGuigan, Illinois State University<br>
> 7. &quot;Advocacy and Research Administration&quot; - Patricia
> Buennemeyer, James Madison<br>
> University, and Deborah Walz, University of Central Arkansas<br>
> 8. &quot;Applying Benchmarking to Sponsored Programs Administration&quot;
> - Paul G. Waugaman<br>
> and Louis G. Tornatzky (Technology Commercialization Group, LLC) and
> William S.<br>
> Kirby (KPMG Consulting), NCURA Region III/SRA Southern Section meeting,
> April 2000<br>
> <br>
> Other:<br>
> 1. &quot;Results of the James Madison University Office of Sponsored
> Programs<br>
> Institutional -Assessment Survey&quot; - Patricia Buennemeyer, James
> Madison<br>
> University, June 1998<br>
> 2. Summary of Survey Research Study &quot;Factors Influencing Grant and
> contract<br>
> Activity in Master's I Universities&quot; - Emilie S. Kane, East Carolina
> University<br>
> <br>
> I would certainly be interested in learning about other surveys that have
> been<br>
> done and seeing those survey instruments, too.<br>
> <br>
> Barbara<br>
> --<br>
> ==================================================================<br>
> Barbara H. Gray, Director<br>
> Office of Research &amp; Grants Administration<br>
> College of Charleston<br>
> 66 George Street<br>
> Charleston, SC&nbsp; 29424<br>
> Campus Location:&nbsp; 407-G Bell Bldg.<br>
> Office: 843.953.5673&nbsp; Desk: 843.953.5885&nbsp; Fax:&nbsp;
> 843.953.6577<br>
> e-mail:&nbsp; xxxxxx@cofc.edu&nbsp;&nbsp; URL:
> <a href="http://www.orga.cofc.edu/"
> eudora="autourl">http://www.orga.cofc.edu/</a></font></blockquote>========
> ===============<br>
> Glenn Krell BA, CRA <br>
> Director, Research Proposal Development<br>
> Illinois Institute of Technology <br>
> 3300 South Federal Street, M/B 301 <br>
> Chicago, Illinois 60616 <br>
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> 312-567-7517 (fax) <br>
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> Date:    Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:12:50 -0600
> From:    Jane Prudhomme <xxxxxx@UNO.EDU>
> Subject: FIPSE PDF forms
>
> Dear FIPSE Applicants:
> I'd like to hear from anyone who chose to use Acrobat Exchange 4.0 to fill
> in the
> required forms for U.S. Dept. of ED - FIPSE program (deadline - Friday,
> Jan. 26).
> Did any of you have the same difficulties with fields (3), (8) and (9) on
> the
> Title Page that we had?  They were [apparently] impossible to fill in
> because they
> had not been defined as "multiple line" fields. Of 11 response categories,
> 3 had
> this difficutly, requiring us to finally resort to good old fashioned "cut
> and
> paste" (literally).  I'm not sure what the designers had in mind with
> this, but I
> thought the value of posting PDF solutions was to facilitate electronic
> entry?
> If someone got around this problem, I'd be very intereseted in how that
> was done.
> Many thanks in advance!
> - Jane Prudhomme
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