Re: F&A Question Jon Hart 12 Dec 2000 14:52 EST
Colleagues, Since there are sources of institutional funding other than grants and contracts, it may be more accurate to say that contributions to a general lab account (departmental or individual) are made in proportion to indirect costs brought in by that investigator/department. These funds may derive from general purpose funds raised by the Development people, an endowment, or other non-federal sources. Just because an investigator or department is rewarded for bringing in grants that carry full F&A rates does not necessarily mean that the grant is the source of that contribution. Joni At 01:03 PM 12/12/00 -0600, you wrote: >I agree. Whenever you make a statement that you 'are giving F&A back to the >faculty' (or areas that did not generate the cost to begin with) its >critical to be very careful with terminology. If you are including costs in >your F&A calculation that are not really there, or are always paid from some >other source, and thus have 'spare' money to redistribute back to the >faculty one would think that you are in a precarious position if you are >ever audited by the feds. If the funds being 'given back' to the faculty are >really excess revenue less expenses from some other part of the system and >if these funds are being used to conduct research, they will have an impact >on the F&A calculation in the following year as they probably should be >treated like any other grant and should be contributing to the indirect >services they use. > >I know that many institutions have a policy of 'giving back F&A', but I've >never really understood how this works within the indirect cost calculation >framework/regulations. > >-David > >David A Higginson, ACMA >Vice President for Information Systems >Arkansas Children's Hospital >1120 Marshall Street >Little Rock, AR 72202 >(501) 320-3757 >xxxxxx@exchange.ach.uams.edu >> Learn more about us at: <http://www.archildrens.org/> > >-----Original Message----- >From: David R. Fielder [mailto:xxxxxx@COOPER.CPMC.ORG] >Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 12:10 PM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Re: F&A Question > > >If we all actually credited IDC recovery to the actual cost centers that >pay for the costs that the feds are supposed to be reimbursing us for maybe >PIs/Faculty would consider the process less of a shell game? > > Minor Rant, > > David >=================================================================== >Mr. David R. Fielder tel: 415.600.1600 >Vice President, Research fax: 415.600.1753 >California Pacific Medical Center email: xxxxxx@cooper.cpmc.org >Research Institute website: http://www.cpmc.org >2340 Clay Street, 5th Floor >San Francisco, CA 94115 >=================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== Jon Hart, Director, Sponsored Programs Administration The Rockefeller University 1230 York Ave.-Box 82, NY, NY 10021-6399 tel: (212) 327-8054; fax: (212) 327-8400 ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================