Re: Subgrants & Co-PIs Michael Pelletier 17 Oct 2000 13:06 EST
I also posed this question to the NSF Policy office and received this reply: "As far as signing the Coversheet, NSF does not encourage organizations to have people sign the Coversheet that are not employees of that organization. This is because the organization is certifying for anyone that signs the Coversheet and some institutions aren't comfortable certifying for people who aren't their employees." Michael Pelletier Todd Travis <xxxxxx@CLA To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG RKSON.EDU> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: Subgrants & Co-PIs Research Administration List <xxxxxx@hrinet .org> 10/17/00 11:22 AM Please respond to Research Administration Discussion List We have also questioned the "proper" way to handle this. We have in fact, recently questioned NSF about how it should be done. While we do not question our Investigator's desire for the Subcontract PI to have Co-PI status, we have not been sure of the best way to handle it. We have also been wary of having Investigators from other institutions appearing on our cover sheet. It does appear that this forces the Authorizing Official from our institution to "certifiy" on behalf of individuals not affiliated with our institution. What we have done in the past is consider the subcontract investigator a NonCo-PI Senior Personnel in our FastLane submission but list their title as "Co-PI" on the budget form for their institution. In the cases where the PI has requested more official Co-PI status for the other Investigator we have suggested submitting as a collaborative proposal instead of a subcontract. It seems to make a certain amount of sense that if the individual is to be considered a Co-PI on the entire project than their effort should be considered more of a collaborative nature than just as a subcontract. Todd Travis Terri Hall wrote: > I would like to hear from other institutions...both those who allow this > practice and also those who don't allow this practice and the reasoning > behind it. > > Please send your comments to Ellen Rogers at xxxxxx@nd.edu. > > Many thanks. > > =================================================== > "We must walk consciously only partway toward our goal, and > then leap in the dark to our success." -- Henry David Thoreau > Terri Hall > Funding Opportunities Specialist / Community of Science Liaison > Office of Research > University of Notre Dame Phn: (219) 631-8710 > 511 Main Building Fax: (219) 631-6630 > > Notre Dame, IN 46556 Email: xxxxxx@nd.edu > =================================================== ____________________________________ Todd C. Travis Assistant Coordinator/Research Funds Division of Research Clarkson University V: 315-268-6475, F: 315-268-6515 xxxxxx@clarkson.edu ____________________________________ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================