Re: Subgrants & Co-PIs Herbert B. Chermside 17 Oct 2000 11:29 EST
This discussion reveals a problem common to the research community and to most institutions: "Principal Investigator" has multiple meanings. Many of us are clear in our own minds which one we are applying at any given moment, but switch from one to the other -- and we are often unsure what someone else means! The Principal Investigator is the leader of the scientific team. The Principal Investigator is the institution's employee responsible for accomplishing the scientific project. The Principal Investigator is the institution's employee responsible for managing the accounts and other business matters needed to accomplish the project. Accomplishing these separate duties involves separate, but overlapping, constellations of skills and knowledge. If you start to draw up a comprehensive list of roles and responsibilities, you start to see a need to separate these roles! Throw in the complexity of an additional person, a Co-investigator, and things get murky. Let that person be at a different institution, and they get downright muddy! Pat Hawk's suggestion using the "collaborators" concept for extra-institutional participating scientists is probably the best way to separate the scientific responsibilities from the institutional ones. Chuck At 09:32 AM 10/17/00 -0500, you wrote: >We are getting an increasing amount of requests from faculty wanting the >PIs on subgrants in their proposals to appear as co-PIs on the cover page. >Even though FastLane offers this as an option in order to get the subgrant >into the system, we think having a Co-PI from another institution on our >proposals sets us up for liability and grant administration problems in the >future. > >I would like to hear from other institutions...both those who allow this >practice and also those who don't allow this practice and the reasoning >behind it. > >Please send your comments to Ellen Rogers at xxxxxx@nd.edu. > >Many thanks. > > >=================================================== >"We must walk consciously only partway toward our goal, and > then leap in the dark to our success." -- Henry David Thoreau >Terri Hall >Funding Opportunities Specialist / Community of Science Liaison >Office of Research >University of Notre Dame Phn: (219) 631-8710 >511 Main Building Fax: (219) 631-6630 > >Notre Dame, IN 46556 Email: xxxxxx@nd.edu >=================================================== > >====================================================================== >Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via >our web site at <http://www.hrinet.org>http://www.hrinet.org (click on >"Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== ></blockquote></x-html> Herbert B. Chermside, CRA Director, Sponsored Programs Administration Virginia Commonwealth University PO BOX 980568 Richmond, VA 23298-0568 Express Delivery Only: Sanger Hall, Rm. 1-073 11th & Marshall Streets Richmond, VA 23219 Voice: 804-828-6772 Fax 804-828-2521 OFFICE e-mail xxxxxx@VCU.EDU Personal e-mail xxxxxx@vcu.edu http://views.vcu.edu/ospa/ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================