Region V Spring Meeting: NCURA Nelson, Cindy L. 28 Feb 2000 17:33 EST
Show/hide attachmentsJust a reminder about the Region V Spring meeting... Region V Spring Meeting April 16-19, 2000 Ft. Worth, Texas Please see details and registration form on the attached brochure. Hope to see you in Fort Worth! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Thanks! Susan Krause Vice Chair Region V 713-770-4212 -----Original Message----- From: Automatic digest processor [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:00 PM To: Recipients of RESADM-L digests Subject: RESADM-L Digest - 22 Feb 2000 to 23 Feb 2000 There are 16 messages totalling 1055 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Army Electronic Submission (7) 2. Wide-open electronic submissions 3. Cost Sharing Indirect Costs (4) 4. ED Cost Sharing Indirect Costs 5. NACA Conference in Las Vegas 6. Bob Lucas Workshops (2) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:35:18 -0500 From: "Mckeough, Pamela M" <xxxxxx@IUPUI.EDU> Subject: Army Electronic Submission For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it does not request any information about the applicant institution or require an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. Pamela M. McKeough Director, Sponsored Program Administration Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:06:55 -0500 From: Anne Womack <xxxxxx@WM.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission Does this growing trend seem like a really good topic for COGR to tackle on our behalf? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.... For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it does not request any information about the applicant institution or require an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. Pamela M. McKeough Director, Sponsored Program Administration Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Anne Womack CRA Director of Sponsored Programs Grants and Research Administration P.O. Box 8795 The College of William & Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795 xxxxxx@wm.edu (757)221-3967 (phone) -4910 (fax) ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:12:18 -0600 From: "Youngers, Jane" <xxxxxx@UTHSCSA.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission When I saw this announcement yesterday I was very concerned. However, I think this just applies to a "preliminary" submission--actually, it's kind of a hybrid. The program is limited to $50k direct. The only budget info they have to give is the $50k direct plus indirect (at the "appropriate" rate) and a total. It appears that the final proposals will require institutional signature and it isn't clear to me that they will be electronic. Wouldn't surprise me if the final ones didn't have to go on those #2 pencil forms that they've been using for years.... Jane A. Youngers Director, Grants Management Mail Code 7828 University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio 7703 Floyd Curl Drive San Antonio TX 78229-3900 phone 210.567.2333 fax 210.567.2344 email xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu -----Original Message----- From: Mckeough, Pamela M [mailto:xxxxxx@IUPUI.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:35 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Army Electronic Submission For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it does not request any information about the applicant institution or require an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. Pamela M. McKeough Director, Sponsored Program Administration Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:07:56 -0600 From: "Thomas E. Wilson" <xxxxxx@BCM.TMC.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission The problem that I have with the announcement is that anyone can send in a preproposal "as long as they are employed by an eligible institution". The rubber hits the road when an employee at an eligible institution is notified in June that their application has made the first cut and their OSP Officer has to tell them that they are ineligible to apply because their institution only allows faculty members to apply for research grants! Tom Wilson At 08:12 AM 2/23/00 -0600, Youngers, Jane wrote: >When I saw this announcement yesterday I was very concerned. However, I >think this just applies to a "preliminary" submission--actually, it's kind >of a hybrid. The program is limited to $50k direct. The only budget info >they have to give is the $50k direct plus indirect (at the "appropriate" >rate) and a total. > >It appears that the final proposals will require institutional signature and >it isn't clear to me that they will be electronic. Wouldn't surprise me if >the final ones didn't have to go on those #2 pencil forms that they've been >using for years.... > >Jane A. Youngers >Director, Grants Management >Mail Code 7828 >University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio >7703 Floyd Curl Drive >San Antonio TX 78229-3900 >phone 210.567.2333 >fax 210.567.2344 >email xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mckeough, Pamela M [mailto:xxxxxx@IUPUI.EDU] >Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 7:35 AM >To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG >Subject: Army Electronic Submission > > >For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that >proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be >submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form >requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it >does not request any information about the applicant institution or require >an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at >http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. > > >Pamela M. McKeough >Director, Sponsored Program Administration >Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis >E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > Thomas E. Wilson, MBA Director, Sponsored Programs Baylor College of Medicine One Baylor Plaza, S103 Houston, TX 77030 phone: 713-798-6998 fax: 713-798-6990 email: xxxxxx@bcm.tmc.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:53:32 -0600 From: Nancy Peterson <xxxxxx@WINONA.MSUS.EDU> Subject: Wide-open electronic submissions Well, the handwriting is on the wall. We have a consortia of private funding sources now accepting submissions by e-mail without prior institutional approval. The U.S. Department of Education is just going to post a warning to submitters that they need to have institutional approval before they press the submit button. Now there's a report that the U.S. Army is going to accept electronic submissions without institutional approval. So the question is, how are you going to cope with this on your campus? At least with a signature required on a grant application form, someone knows a grant is being submitted (although I have had the occasional faculty member or department chair sign off as the authorized signatory...) Do you think an internal electronic institutional approval process will help? Does anyone out there have one that's relatively easy to implement? Do you use electronic forms? Passwords? Is it web-based? Are there any other ideas. I'm open to any suggestions! ************************************************************************** Nancy Kay Peterson Director of Grants & Sponsored Projects Somsen Hall Room 202-C Winona State University Winona, MN 55987 Phone: 507.457.5519 Fax: 507.457.2415 xxxxxx@winona.msus.edu http://www.winona.msus.edu/grants/ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:22:56 -0600 From: Mike Luczak <xxxxxx@SLU.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission Dr. Webster, This sounds like it might be a problem. Do you want me to check with our breast cancer researchers to see if they might be submitting an application for this award? Mike "Mckeough, Pamela M" wrote: > For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that > proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be > submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form > requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it > does not request any information about the applicant institution or require > an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at > http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. > > Pamela M. McKeough > Director, Sponsored Program Administration > Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis > E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:56:36 -0500 From: Tony DeCrappeo <xxxxxx@COGR.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission Hi Anne It does, and we are working with FDP in trying to get all the agencies committed to the Fedral Commons. The next FDP meeting is coming up March 6-7 and DOD reps will be there so I'm sure this will be a major agenda item. Tony >>> Anne Womack <xxxxxx@WM.EDU> 02/23 9:06 AM >>> Does this growing trend seem like a really good topic for COGR to tackle on our behalf? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.... For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it does not request any information about the applicant institution or require an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. Pamela M. McKeough Director, Sponsored Program Administration Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Anne Womack CRA Director of Sponsored Programs Grants and Research Administration P.O. Box 8795 The College of William & Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795 xxxxxx@wm.edu (757)221-3967 (phone) -4910 (fax) ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:07:27 -0500 From: Laura Hartley <xxxxxx@MAIL.LESLEY.EDU> Subject: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs I noticed in last week's discussion about FIPSE F&A rates that a number of colleges and universities indicated that they had used the DoEd suggested rate of 8% of TDC and showed as part of their cost share the difference between this figure and the amount they would have recovered for F&A had they used their federally-negotiated rate. In several NCURA-sponsored workshops I've attended over the past six months, however, I have heard several times that doing this will ultimately bring down an institution's F&A rate. I'm curious as to whether other institutions have any policies regarding this issue and how frequently this practice is used when cost sharing is required and F&A cost restriction are required or strongly encouraged. And could someone who understands better than I do the issues surrounding the negotiation of indirect rates explain (again) to me why it might be a bad idea to do this? Thanks. Laura C. Hartley, Ph.D. Grants Officer/Staff Writer Office of the Provost Lesley College 29 Everett Street Cambridge, MA 02138-2790 Phone: 617-349-8795 Fax: 617-349-8974 email: xxxxxx@mail.lesley.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:04:39 -0500 From: Anne Womack <xxxxxx@WM.EDU> Subject: Re: Army Electronic Submission Great, thanks for the update. A. Hi Anne It does, and we are working with FDP in trying to get all the agencies committed to the Fedral Commons. The next FDP meeting is coming up March 6-7 and DOD reps will be there so I'm sure this will be a major agenda item. Tony >>> Anne Womack <xxxxxx@WM.EDU> 02/23 9:06 AM >>> Does this growing trend seem like a really good topic for COGR to tackle on our behalf? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.... For those of you who have not seen it yet, the Army has requested that proposals for the new Breast Cancer Research Program Concept Award be submitted electronically (via e-mail or on diskette). Although the form requests information about the person authorized to conduct negotiations, it does not request any information about the applicant institution or require an institutional approval. Additional information can be found at http://cdmrp.army.mil/?/announce/. Pamela M. McKeough Director, Sponsored Program Administration Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Anne Womack CRA Director of Sponsored Programs Grants and Research Administration P.O. Box 8795 The College of William & Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795 xxxxxx@wm.edu (757)221-3967 (phone) -4910 (fax) ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Anne Womack CRA Director of Sponsored Programs Grants and Research Administration P.O. Box 8795 The College of William & Mary Williamsburg, VA 23187-8795 xxxxxx@wm.edu (757)221-3967 (phone) -4910 (fax) ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:38:45 -0500 From: Victoria Steel <xxxxxx@CMSU2.CMSU.EDU> Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs I would like to add something to this request. Currently our institution is preparing a proposal for the Department of Education's Preparing Tomorrow's Teachers To Use Technology (PT3) Program. The program requires a 1:1 match from the applicant. The guidelines state that the indirect costs cap is 8% and that the difference between the 8% and our negotiated rate can not be used as a match. This is the first time we have encountered this position from a funder, can anyone provide insight? Victoria Steel >I noticed in last week's discussion about FIPSE F&A rates that a number of >colleges and universities indicated that they had used the DoEd suggested >rate of 8% of TDC and showed as part of their cost share the difference >between this figure and the amount they would have recovered for F&A had >they used their federally-negotiated rate. > >In several NCURA-sponsored workshops I've attended over the past six >months, however, I have heard several times that doing this will ultimately >bring down an institution's F&A rate. > >I'm curious as to whether other institutions have any policies regarding >this issue and how frequently this practice is used when cost sharing is >required and F&A cost restriction are required or strongly encouraged. > >And could someone who understands better than I do the issues surrounding >the negotiation of indirect rates explain (again) to me why it might be a >bad idea to do this? > >Thanks. >Laura C. Hartley, Ph.D. >Grants Officer/Staff Writer >Office of the Provost >Lesley College >29 Everett Street >Cambridge, MA 02138-2790 >Phone: 617-349-8795 >Fax: 617-349-8974 >email: xxxxxx@mail.lesley.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - Victoria Steel The Graduate School Humphreys 410 Central Missouri State University Warrensburg, MO 64093 phone: 660.543.8099 fax: 660.543.8333 email: xxxxxx@cmsu1.cmsu.edu www.cmsu.edu/graduate - - - - - - - - - - - - ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:21:56 -0600 From: "Youngers, Jane" <xxxxxx@UTHSCSA.EDU> Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs As a reply to the whole group: A-110 allows agencies to decide whether or not indirect cost waivers or differences between the allowed rate and the negotiated rate can be used as a match. For example, the Department of Energy allows the difference to be used as cost sharing as does NSF. Department of Education specifically prohibited the use of the difference between negotiated rates and 8% as cost sharing or matching. You need to consult the specific agency guidelines or implementations of A-110 (in ED's case you would find it at 34 CFR 74, 77. Cheers, Jane Jane A. Youngers Director, Grants Management Mail Code 7828 University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio 7703 Floyd Curl Drive San Antonio TX 78229-3900 phone 210.567.2333 fax 210.567.2344 email xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu -----Original Message----- From: Victoria Steel [mailto:xxxxxx@CMSU2.CMSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:39 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs I would like to add something to this request. Currently our institution is preparing a proposal for the Department of Education's Preparing Tomorrow's Teachers To Use Technology (PT3) Program. The program requires a 1:1 match from the applicant. The guidelines state that the indirect costs cap is 8% and that the difference between the 8% and our negotiated rate can not be used as a match. This is the first time we have encountered this position from a funder, can anyone provide insight? Victoria Steel >I noticed in last week's discussion about FIPSE F&A rates that a number of >colleges and universities indicated that they had used the DoEd suggested >rate of 8% of TDC and showed as part of their cost share the difference >between this figure and the amount they would have recovered for F&A had >they used their federally-negotiated rate. > >In several NCURA-sponsored workshops I've attended over the past six >months, however, I have heard several times that doing this will ultimately >bring down an institution's F&A rate. > >I'm curious as to whether other institutions have any policies regarding >this issue and how frequently this practice is used when cost sharing is >required and F&A cost restriction are required or strongly encouraged. > >And could someone who understands better than I do the issues surrounding >the negotiation of indirect rates explain (again) to me why it might be a >bad idea to do this? > >Thanks. >Laura C. Hartley, Ph.D. >Grants Officer/Staff Writer >Office of the Provost >Lesley College >29 Everett Street >Cambridge, MA 02138-2790 >Phone: 617-349-8795 >Fax: 617-349-8974 >email: xxxxxx@mail.lesley.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - Victoria Steel The Graduate School Humphreys 410 Central Missouri State University Warrensburg, MO 64093 phone: 660.543.8099 fax: 660.543.8333 email: xxxxxx@cmsu1.cmsu.edu www.cmsu.edu/graduate - - - - - - - - - - - - ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:00:31 EST From: Imeh Ebong <xxxxxx@NUNET.NEU.EDU> Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs Laura: Here is a pedestrian view of indirect costs calculation: the indirect cost rate is a ratio of facilities and administrative costs to the total costs of doing the "research business". When you provide cost sharing for a project your contribution is part of the cost of doing research in your organization. This cost of doing research goes into the denominator in the calculation for the determination of your indirect cost rate. As a result, every time you provide cost sharing you increase the denominator, which in turn decreases your indirect cost rate. I am sure the indirect costs gurus on this list can add more to this. Imeh ===================================================================== Imeh Ebong, Ph. D. Director, Division of Research Development 960 Renaissance Park Northeastern University Booston, MA 02115-5000 Tel: (617) 373-8770 Fax: (617) 373-8866 ===================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I noticed in last week's discussion about FIPSE F&A rates that a number of colleges and universities indicated that they had used the DoEd suggested rate of 8% of TDC and showed as part of their cost share the difference between this figure and the amount they would have recovered for F&A had they used their federally-negotiated rate. In several NCURA-sponsored workshops I've attended over the past six months, however, I have heard several times that doing this will ultimately bring down an institution's F&A rate. I'm curious as to whether other institutions have any policies regarding this issue and how frequently this practice is used when cost sharing is required and F&A cost restriction are required or strongly encouraged. And could someone who understands better than I do the issues surrounding the negotiation of indirect rates explain (again) to me why it might be a bad idea to do this? Thanks. Laura C. Hartley, Ph.D. Grants Officer/Staff Writer Office of the Provost Lesley College 29 Everett Street Cambridge, MA 02138-2790 Phone: 617-349-8795 Fax: 617-349-8974 email: xxxxxx@mail.lesley.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== - - - - - - - - - - - - End of Original Message - - - - - - - - - - - - ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:26:50 -0500 From: "Rhodes, Kris E" <xxxxxx@MARSHALL.EDU> Subject: ED Cost Sharing Indirect Costs As I read the CFR, The US Department of Education typically only limits indirect cost costsharing on training grants (examples summer institutes, training programs for selected participants, the introduction of new or expanded courses) or projects that implement previously developed materials and methods and require no significant adaptation of techniques or instructional services to fit different circumstances. Projects that involve research, development and dissemination of new educational materials and methods are not considered training grants. The specific clause that limits the use of indirect costs to satisfy matching or costsharing requirements applies to training grants and is set forth in 34 CFR 75.562.c3 -----Original Message----- From: Youngers, Jane [mailto:xxxxxx@UTHSCSA.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 2:22 PM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs As a reply to the whole group: A-110 allows agencies to decide whether or not indirect cost waivers or differences between the allowed rate and the negotiated rate can be used as a match. For example, the Department of Energy allows the difference to be used as cost sharing as does NSF. Department of Education specifically prohibited the use of the difference between negotiated rates and 8% as cost sharing or matching. You need to consult the specific agency guidelines or implementations of A-110 (in ED's case you would find it at 34 CFR 74, 77. Cheers, Jane Jane A. Youngers Director, Grants Management Mail Code 7828 University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio 7703 Floyd Curl Drive San Antonio TX 78229-3900 phone 210.567.2333 fax 210.567.2344 email xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu -----Original Message----- From: Victoria Steel [mailto:xxxxxx@CMSU2.CMSU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 11:39 AM To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG Subject: Re: Cost Sharing Indirect Costs I would like to add something to this request. Currently our institution is preparing a proposal for the Department of Education's Preparing Tomorrow's Teachers To Use Technology (PT3) Program. The program requires a 1:1 match from the applicant. The guidelines state that the indirect costs cap is 8% and that the difference between the 8% and our negotiated rate can not be used as a match. This is the first time we have encountered this position from a funder, can anyone provide insight? Victoria Steel >I noticed in last week's discussion about FIPSE F&A rates that a number of >colleges and universities indicated that they had used the DoEd suggested >rate of 8% of TDC and showed as part of their cost share the difference >between this figure and the amount they would have recovered for F&A had >they used their federally-negotiated rate. > >In several NCURA-sponsored workshops I've attended over the past six >months, however, I have heard several times that doing this will ultimately >bring down an institution's F&A rate. > >I'm curious as to whether other institutions have any policies regarding >this issue and how frequently this practice is used when cost sharing is >required and F&A cost restriction are required or strongly encouraged. > >And could someone who understands better than I do the issues surrounding >the negotiation of indirect rates explain (again) to me why it might be a >bad idea to do this? > >Thanks. >Laura C. Hartley, Ph.D. >Grants Officer/Staff Writer >Office of the Provost >Lesley College >29 Everett Street >Cambridge, MA 02138-2790 >Phone: 617-349-8795 >Fax: 617-349-8974 >email: xxxxxx@mail.lesley.edu - - - - - - - - - - - - Victoria Steel The Graduate School Humphreys 410 Central Missouri State University Warrensburg, MO 64093 phone: 660.543.8099 fax: 660.543.8333 email: xxxxxx@cmsu1.cmsu.edu www.cmsu.edu/graduate - - - - - - - - - - - - ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:17:57 -0800 From: Michael Anthony <xxxxxx@FINANCE.UCLA.EDU> Subject: NACA Conference in Las Vegas Just a reminder for those who haven't registered yet, the annual meeting of the National Association of College Cost Accounting (NACA) will be held March 22-24, 2000 in Las Vegas. Information concerning this conference is on the web and can be found at the following address: http://grove.ufl.edu/~seca <http://grove.ufl.edu/~seca> <http://grove.ufl.edu/~seca <http://grove.ufl.edu/~seca> > (Click on CONFERENCES then click on National Conference Information then click on the Conferences button below the map of the United States). Michael D. Anthony Director, Extramural Fund Management UCLA Corporate Financial Services 10920 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 500 Los Angeles, CA 90024 Phone: (310) 794-2838 Fax: (310) 794-2852 Email: xxxxxx@finance.ucla.edu <mailto:xxxxxx@finance.ucla.edu> ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:47:19 -0600 From: Angela Ford <xxxxxx@SFASU.EDU> Subject: Bob Lucas Workshops My office is thinking of coordinating a university effort to bring Bob Lucas to our campus to conduct a scholarly productivity workshop. I know Bob Lucas also offers a grant-writing workshop, which we might be interested in at a later date. There was a brief discussion on the listserve at one time about workshop presenters, and several people indicated that he had come to their campuses. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has hosted one of his workshops. Please feel free to respond directly to me, if you would prefer. Thank you for your assistance. Angela Ford ***************************************************** Angela M. Ford Grant Support Specialist Research & Sponsored Programs Stephen F. Austin State University P.O. Box 13024,SFA Station Nacogdoches, TX 75962 phone: 936-468-1805 fax: 936-468-1251 e-mail: xxxxxx@sfasu.edu ****************************************************** ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:38:15 -0500 From: Sandy Schulte <xxxxxx@GRIS.GRAD.UCONN.EDU> Subject: Re: Bob Lucas Workshops Yep, we had him for the scholarly writing workshop and the grant workshop. He's good, he's funny, and our faculty and graduate students liked his workshop. He's also expensive. Date sent: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:47:19 -0600 Send reply to: Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> From: Angela Ford <xxxxxx@SFASU.EDU> Subject: Bob Lucas Workshops To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG My office is thinking of coordinating a university effort to bring Bob Lucas to our campus to conduct a scholarly productivity workshop. I know Bob Lucas also offers a grant-writing workshop, which we might be interested in at a later date. There was a brief discussion on the listserve at one time about workshop presenters, and several people indicated that he had come to their campuses. I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has hosted one of his workshops. Please feel free to respond directly to me, if you would prefer. Thank you for your assistance. Angela Ford ***************************************************** Angela M. Ford Grant Support Specialist Research & Sponsored Programs Stephen F. Austin State University P.O. Box 13024,SFA Station Nacogdoches, TX 75962 phone: 936-468-1805 fax: 936-468-1251 e-mail: xxxxxx@sfasu.edu ****************************************************** ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Sandy Schulte Asst Vice Provost for Research Administration University of Connecticut Tel: 860-486-0985; FAX 860-486-5381 ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of RESADM-L Digest - 22 Feb 2000 to 23 Feb 2000 ***************************************************