Yes I know about the UMinn system. I have seen a couple of demos and it is very impressive. I wish we had something like that. The Columbia system under development also seems impressive, and there is Coesus, and some others. I only commented on those of which I have a personal knowledge. --On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 2:37 PM -0500 Greg Schmidt <xxxxxx@FAMU.EDU> wrote: > Mr. Beattie: > > Next door to you (practically), is the U of MN with their system. From > their propaganda, it too is fully Webable and includes forms, reporting > and integration into financials, purchasing, and personnel. In addition, > it has automatic audits, parallel review by separate office and a > sanctions function for abusers. I hear tell it's launching fully grown > in June. I'm not sure of their EDI capability, but considering who wrote > the programs, I'm sure it is (they also wrote Gopher and Pop-Mail). > > Greg Schmidt > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Beattie" <xxxxxx@UMICH.EDU> > To: <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: computer systems > > >> In order to use PeopleSoft Grants you must have PeopleSoft Financials 7.5 >> and as reported in The Chronicle for other PS systems much money, staff, >> and time to get it installed and supported. With out other PS systems and >> all the infrastructure and outside consultants needed, GRANTS is not a >> viable option. >> >> GAMS is still in development. The University of Mass, Amherst, using a >> version not completely Quality Assured Tested (but QA'd for most of the >> forms and budget parts) processed 5 real proposals in 5 months and >> generated some 140 requests for fixes (60 fixed). The person to ask for >> real life experience there is Paul Kelley xxxxxx@resgs.umass.edu GAMS >> has much potential but still needs to be finished up a bit. You would > need >> a full time administrator (although you can contract with the vendor for >> service) to manage all the components. >> >> Unlike GRANTS, it is fully web enabled. It allows users to complete >> government forms (including attachment of a rich text abstract) and > prepare >> a budget, and attach the scientific text. It prints out the forms for > most >> government agencies. It also has capability to send a Transaction Set >> 194 via EDI directly to sponsor (no need for service bureau). >> >> For a view of one university's attempt to use it for a full grants data >> management system, contact Sarah Wasserman xxxxxx@oba.uiuc.edu >> >> I do not know the current price but must be in middle to high 6 figures. >> The original consortium of universities that participated in early >> development is dissolving so new users would be licensing the product >> directly from the vendor. I do not know what role new users would play >> in any further development. Note that it runs on a system called >> UniVerse > and >> not on Oracle or such systems and this needs to be factored in to any >> cost consideration. So unlike GRANTS or other PS programs which can be > modified >> easily at each site by using PeopleTools, GAMS is modified only by the >> vendor. We do not have GAMS in production for live proposals at UMich >> but are still testing it. We do not have PS Financials 7.5 so cannot >> consider GRANTS yet. We participated in both development groups. >> >> Hope this gives you some useful info. >> >> Bob >> >> Robert Beattie >> Manager of electronic Research Administration >> and Senior Project Representative >> The University of Michigan >> xxxxxx@umich.edu >> >> --On Fri, Feb 11, 2000 10:21 AM -0500 Beverly Blakeney >> <xxxxxx@ZOO.UVM.EDU> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Our office will be looking at Grant Management systems such as InfoEd, >> > GAMS and PeopleSoft. Would you be willing to share your experience, >> > positive as well as negative, with us concerning those systems or other >> > systems? We will not have in house computer support available, so we're >> > looking for a system that can be supported by non-techies. Thank you. >> > >> > >> > > ************************************************************************* >> > ** Beverly A.Blakeney >> > Assistant Director >> > Office of Sponsored Programs >> > University of Vermont >> > 340 Waterman Building >> > Burlington, VT 05405 >> > >> > >> > ====================================================================== >> > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >> > ====================================================================== >> >> >> ====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >> ====================================================================== >> > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
