Show of hands--how many out there do not print out virtually all their email, especially the longer ones?
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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On Behalf Of J. Syd Conner
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:55 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] another article in the Chronicle on grants.gov

I imagine that the folks in this administration are not concerned with saving paper per se -- only with saving THEIR paper.  ;-)

J. Syd Conner, Information Specialist   
Sponsored Programs Administration 
The University of Southern Mississippi  
601.266.4119    Bond Hall, Room 316  
xxxxxx@usm.edu 
http://www.usm.edu/spa

From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Dave B. Harris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:41 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] another article in the Chronicle on grants.gov

Good point Molly--

It also does not include the numerous pages that print out with nothing on them but boxes when you select the misleading "print" option from the application package main page.  We may have always printed documents during the proposal development stage, but usually when we printed these documents, we anticipated that some valid information would be on them.

-- 
Dave B. Harris, Assistant Director
ISU Office of Sponsored Programs
Stop 8046, ISU
Pocatello, ID 83209-8046
(208)282-2592
http://www.isu.edu/grants   mailto:xxxxxx@isu.edu
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Molly Daniel wrote:

http://chronicle.com/weekly/v53/i22/22a02501.htm
The link above is to an article in this week's Chronicle of Higher Education about the underwhelming success of Grants.gov. The article cites a claim by NIH that the electronic submission process will save an estimated "200 million sheets of paper." We haven't really saved a forest yet, though, because those 200 million pages are likely offset by the 500 million printed in a several hundred offices of applicant organizations around the country who are trying to figure out how to use the system.

Grants.gov Applicant User Guide - 90 pages
NIH eRA Commonts System Users Guide - 104 pages
Grants.gov Application Guide for the SF424 (R&R) (version 2) - 202 pages
NIH ERA Exchange Services Notes, Tips and Validations for Grants.gov components - 74 pages

This of course does not include the RFA/RFP, the sample completed SF424 R&R application or the many drafts of the "completed" form pages we spit out as we develop the drafts. Sure, we always have printed those documents, but now it seems as though the parts are broken up into to even more separate sheets of paper.

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Molly Daniel
Grants Specialist
Planning Department
Sarah Bush Lincoln Health Center
1000 Health Center Drive
Mattoon, IL  61938
tel. 217.258.2195
fax 217.258.4135
email: xxxxxx@sblhs.org
http://www.sarahbush.org

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