I would not offer an alternative.  If funds are being returned to the PIs, I would do it consistently.  My objective would be to seek full recovery when allowed (the maximum amount that the agency allows).   The PIs do not control sponsor guidelines, and large federal grants are not available to all PIs....
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Charna K Howson
Associate Director
Office of Sponsored Programs
POB 26170, Suite 103 Foust
The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
Greensboro, NC  27402-6170
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The strategy seems to be based on a fair share concept, often utilized
in labor negotiations as it allows costs to be fairly distributed.

In opposing such a strategy, what would you offer in the alternative?


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Dorothy,

I believe this practice would create much ill will.  Moreover, you
will likely find yourself spending more on tracking distribution of
those funds than you will recover.....  If it were suggested here, I
would strongly oppose such a move.

Charna
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Office of Sponsored Programs
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The University of North Carolina at Greensboro
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Does anyone utilize a sliding scale to determine the distribution of
internal indirect cost recovery, when receiving less-than the full
assigned rate. For example, if you receive something less than your
fully-approved rate from a sponsor, does your central administration
take a larger share than normal of the IDC that will be received?

Currently, our fully-approved rate is 44% which is distributed 70% to
central administration, 10% to the college and 20% to the department.
If we were to receive 19% indirect cost on a project, then the
proposed distribution would be 82.5% to central administration, 3.75%
to the college and 13.75% to the department.

If you utilize a similar system, what are the good/bad points of doing
so?
If your institution thought about using this type of plan but did/ did
not,what was the rationale?

Thanks,

Dorothy A. Spurlock
Director, Research & Sponsored Programs
The University of Toledo






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