NSF PO telling PI that NSF does not like to provide summer support Carolyn Elliott-Farino (14 Oct 2014 12:37 EST)
Re: NSF PO telling PI that NSF does not like to provide summer support Gray, Barbara (14 Oct 2014 15:08 EST)
Re: NSF PO telling PI that NSF does not like to provide summer support Carolyn Elliott-Farino (14 Oct 2014 17:01 EST)
Re: NSF PO telling PI that NSF does not like to provide summer support Samantha E. Cantrell (15 Oct 2014 09:48 EST)

Re: NSF PO telling PI that NSF does not like to provide summer support Gray, Barbara 14 Oct 2014 15:08 EST

And you might offer to make that call jointly with your PI to take the pressure off him/her---and to give you firsthand knowledge if indeed the PO is giving incorrect information so that you can follow up with someone else at NSF if need be...

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Carolyn,

My guess would be that your PI has potentially encountered a new rotator PO who does not yet fully understand the meaning of the regulations contained in the GPG.

I would have him/her go back and, quoting Section 2.g.i.(a) Salaries and Wages, ask if there is something they are not understanding or if there has been a recent reinterpretation of that section - the old play dumb routine might work?

That tact has worked for us when we encountered a new PO.

Larry

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>>> Carolyn Elliott-Farino <xxxxxx@KENNESAW.EDU> 10/14/2014 1:37 PM
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Colleagues,

We have a PI who has informed me that his program officer at NSF told him that NSF "does not like to provide summer support, and it is the first thing that goes when they negotiate budget just before awards are to be made." I told our PI that this is not true but he reiterated that this is what his PO told him. Our PI also said his colleague at a private, more research intensive institution (we are a public, predominantly undergrad
institution) "expressed a similar sentiment - basically, NSF does not like to pay for effort."

We have always received funding on NSF grants for PI and co-PI support, except for MRI grants. Has something changed? I am very confident that either our PI has misunderstood his PO, or the PO is sadly misinformed (and hopefully wouldn't actually be able to cut out all PI salary), but this PI has already had an unpleasant interaction with NSF so I am treading lightly. Wouldn't NSF wonder why a PI included zero effort on a project (you can't cost share, remember)?

Frankly, my belief is that the PO is either assuming our PI will request two months during the AY and therefore would not allow summer salary (perfectly logical), or assumes our PI will request two summer months and is saying no to AY salary.  Given the tender psyche of this PI at the moment, I don't want to be cavalier and tell him to just budget the two months. I would like to offer him assurance that it's really okay to request effort on the project.

Thanks in advance for any reassurance you can provide me to pass on to our PI.

Carolyn Elliott-Farino, MA, CRA

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