Re: Senior/Key Person BUG Terri Hall 05 Jun 2009 12:40 EST

Exactly...although it doesn't reach original goal of deleting the "person", the ultimate goal of submission is reached - and without having to re-create entire thing with the pressure of a looming deadline.

Still unsure of how/if G.g will take this type of submission... And I have no desire to call the help desk to check.
So I don't suggest trying it unless you've got time before the deadline to create a whole new application.
Terri

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beattie
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:30 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person BUG

After you fill in all the required fields with NA, you still cannot
delete the entry but you can submit the application.
Bob
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Robert Beattie

On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Terri Hall wrote:

Is this an option?  enter N/A in the required fields of profile to
delete. That should pass the Check and save you from re-entering
everything. Haven't tried it...

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Beattie
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:58 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person BUG

This is a terrible flaw in the system that has been knowN to
Grants.gov for at least 6 months but they refuse to fix it.   I do
not believe that Paula's suggestion will work in this case.  There at
two options.
1. Start over
2.  fill in NA's in all the yellow fields or use xxxxxx@xxx.edu for the
email, and attach a biosketch that says "there is no additional
person but the system is flawed and will not allow me to delete this
entry."  Sloppy but quick.  I suspect most PI's will not want to do
this.

Maybe if all 2000 some members of this listserv would send an
"enhancemenet" form, G.g will get the message that this needs
fixing.  Hardly a real enhancement more of a fix the bug situation.
This is a Word document that you can fill in.

http://www.grants.gov/assets/CustomerEnhancementForm.doc

I sent the following text to the previous Director of Grants.gov and
he said he would fix it, about a month before he was removed.

"The problem occurs on the Research and Related Senior Key Personnel
page.  There is a field,  a pull down list, "Project Role" that
cannot be emptied once it has a selection picked.   I entered a Key
Person who then dropped out of the project.
I emptied all the fields but could not delete the information in this
field.  This is a required field, so if there is an entry, then all
the other fields have yellow boxes.  With these yellow boxes there
cannot be a validation.  Without validation, the application cannot
be submitted.

One easy way to fix it is to have a "blank" option among the pull
down choices.  This is done above, with the State pull down list.
Perhaps a "delete entry" can be added.  If there is more than one Key
Person, there is a "delete entry," so you can delete all but
the last Key Person.'

Bob
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Robert Beattie
UMich e-Business Point of Contact
UMich Grants.gov Liaison
Managing Senior Project Representative for Electronic Research
Administration
Division of Research Development and Administration
University of Michigan
xxxxxx@umich.edu   (734) 936-1283

On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Mccauley, Paula M wrote:

Try putting your curser in that Project Role (even though it's a drop
down list, it should allow you to do this) and just back space. It
should delete the project role. I spent about 15 minutes on a
subaward budget that did the same thing, and that's how I got it to
clear out so that I could proceed to other areas of the application.
Good luck!

Paula McCauley-Shelton, B.A.
Grants Manager
UAMS Department of Pediatrics
Grants Administration MS 512-1
501-364-2368 Phone
501-364-4656 Fax
xxxxxx@uams.edu

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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:54 AM
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Subject: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person

Wonder if anyone can help.  We have a 4242 app going to NIH today.
There is only one key person, the PI.  However, an entry was
inadvertently made in Senior/Key Person 1 and now the form thinks
that an entry is required.  I can clear all of the fields except
Project Role.  Many of the fields are highlighted and I does not pass
the validation test.

Any suggestions?

Gary Lingle, CPA
Director, Grants and Contracts
The Methodist Hospital Research Institute

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