Re: help with grants.gov Schoen, Alexander 18 Mar 2009 11:18 EST

I think the main issue is that all individuals that open and save the
forms must use THE SAME VERSION OF ADOBE. The G.Gov website
http://www.grants.gov/help/download_software.jsp#adobe811 has a chart of
the versions of abobe that can be used.  We are making sure that all
investigators are using 8.1.3 reader or 8.0 professional.  In some cases
we are managing the installation to ensure the correct versions are
installed.

Alex
Winthrop-University Hospital

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Behalf Of Hudobenko,Paul F.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] help with grants.gov

Yes, that part of the story jogs my memory. In addition to what I wrote
yesterday, I too was told by the first grants.gov help desk person that
the application had to be built with version 8.1.3 only and that no
other version could be used.  The next person that I talked to must have
had a more updated script as they indicated that version 9 had to be
used. In the end, simply resubmitting the same application at a later
date worked.

Paul Hudobenko
University of Connecticut Health Center

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Dimmitt, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:50 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] help with grants.gov

Good morning everyone.

Yesterday I wrote the list with this error as I sat on hold with
grants.gov.  I was told by g.g to redo the package because someone must
have saved it in an unsupported version.  I was specifically told that I
had to build the package in 8.1.3.  Knowing that this was an outdated
script that the person was reading off of, I pushed back with the
logical question, "don't you mean a supported version of adobe?"  I was
then told no, it had to be 8.1.3.  Kicker is, as I am sure many places
are like this, we no longer have version 8 on any of our machines.

Given all this, and the wisdom from all of you, I just completely
ignored g.g and marked the exact same application as a change/corrected
and resubmitted.  I made absolutely no other changes and it went through
to the commons with only warnings.

I am convinced that this is an error that is a grants.gov problem.  The
unfortunate part is that once we go through all of their paces of
re-downloading the package and then resubmitting, it goes through ok.
This is seen, in the eyes of grants.gov, as a validation of their "fix".
It is like banging your head against a brick wall and then, when it
starts bleeding you stop and put a band aid on the cut.  Fact is, when
the bleeding stops, it isn't because of the band-aid, it is because you
STOPPED BANGING YOUR HEAD!!!

Ok, I feel better now...

Rob Dimmitt

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Francis, Richard A.
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:18 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] help with grants.gov

Before you redo an entire application, try clearing any YELLOWS in the
detailed budget forms -- even if NOT required, and still over on the
LEFT side of the form!  Worked for us yesterday, and it makes some
sense. Those are the fields referred to in the error messages.

Rick Francis, Ph.D.
Director, Research Information Services
Research and Sponsored Programs
The University of Toledo
419-530-6193

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Behalf Of Robert R Beattie 1
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:47 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] help with grants.gov

This was the error du jour yesterday.  Looks like it will be haunting us
today!
First option is to just resubmit.  If that fails the second time, then
try redoing the application from a fresh download.  It is a shame that
General Dynamics Information Technology cannot get this system fixed.

Bob
University of Michigan

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 08:13:17 -0400, Lesley Zajac <xxxxxx@JAEB.ORG>
wrote:
> I submitted my first application to g.g this morning.  I received the
> following errors and have no idea what they mean.  I have been
following
> the discussions on the list and know that there are often issues with
> false errors. I did not submit a modular budget, so I don't understand

> the references to modular budgets.  I have emailed g.g for assistance,

> but hope that those of you with far more experience with g.g can help
me
> resolve this.
>
>
> Error:Schema validation failed
> DefaultValidationHandler found 16 problems:
> 	16 Errors:
> 	1: (line 2 column 113275) cvc-minLength-valid: Value '' with
length =
> '0' is not facet-valid with respect to minLength '1' for type
> 'StringMin1Max255Type'.
> 	2: (line 2 column 113275) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'att:FileName' is not valid.
> 	3: (line 2 column 113364) cvc-minLength-valid: Value '' with
length =
> '0' is not facet-valid with respect to minLength '1' for type
> 'StringMin1Max255Type'.
> 	4: (line 2 column 113364) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'att:MimeType' is not valid.
> 	5: (line 2 column 117623) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a
valid
> value for 'decimal'.
> 	6: (line 2 column 117623) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'PHS398_ModularBudget:DirectCostLessConsortiumFandA' is not valid.
> 	7: (line 2 column 117677) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a
valid
> value for 'decimal'.
> 	8: (line 2 column 117677) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'PHS398_ModularBudget:TotalFundsRequestedDirectCosts' is not valid.
> 	9: (line 2 column 117773) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a
valid
> value for 'decimal'.
> 	10: (line 2 column 117773) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'PHS398_ModularBudget:TotalFundsRequestedDirectIndirectCosts'
is
> not valid.
> 	11: (line 2 column 117955) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a

> valid value for 'decimal'.
> 	12: (line 2 column 117955) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
> 'PHS398_ModularBudget:CumulativeDirectCostLessConsortiumFandA'
> is not valid.
> 	13: (line 2 column 118019) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a

> valid value for 'decimal'.
> 	14: (line 2 column 118019) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
'PHS398_ModularBudget:CumulativeTotalFundsRequestedDirectCosts'
> is not valid.
> 	15: (line 2 column 118091) cvc-datatype-valid.1.2.1: '' is not a

> valid value for 'decimal'.
> 	16: (line 2 column 118091) cvc-type.3.1.3: The value '' of
element
>
'PHS398_ModularBudget:CumulativeTotalFundsRequestedDirectIndirectCosts'
> is not valid.
>
>
> Lesley S. Zajac
> Director, Research Administration
> Jaeb Center for Health Research
> 15310 Amberly Drive, Suite 350
> Tampa, FL 33647
> Tel: 813.975.8690
> Fax: 813.975.8761
> www.jaeb.org
> xxxxxx@jaeb.org
>
>
>
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