Re: Informal Survey Cotten,Melinda T 16 Dec 2008 09:14 EST

Sounds like we are sailing the same ship Rene.  I appreciate everyone's input.  In my spare time (yeah right), I will prepare a report with the responses about who has similar policies (enforcable or not).

Sincerely,
Melinda

Melinda Cotten
Executive Director, Sponsored Programs
M. D. Anderson Cancer Center
Houston, TX  77030
Ph 713-792-3220

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Rene Hearns
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:34 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
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Charlie is absolutely right.  Unless it is always enforced, the policy will
be ignored.   To address who has actually enforced the policy, we have in a
"quasi" manner.

Enforcement of the policy will be determined by the goals and values of the
institution's leadership.  If our internal deadlines are not met, my office
has the authority not to submit the proposal should it does not meet the
established minimum standards for our institution.

This has occurred and what we did was to discuss the issue, first with the
leadership and then with the dean of the particular college.  This allowed
the dean to decide whether they wanted their name associated with the
proposal.  Our issues were poorly assembled proposal and major unapproved
voluntary costshare.  The college refused to endorse its submission.

It became the minimum threshold for my institution.  My office is here to
facilitate submissions not discourage them; for this reason, even with a
policy there has to be flexibility on its application whether we like it or
not.

rene

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Rene Hearns, PhD (cand), MPA, CRA
Director, Office of Sponsored Programs and Research
University of Louisiana at Monroe
700 University Avenue LIB 211
Monroe, LA 71209-3925
T: 318.342.1039 f: 318.342.1479
xxxxxx@ulm.edu

Dissertation Topic:  Evaluating the impact of engaged learning on direct and
indirect citizen participation.

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Kim A Pachetti
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 11:00 AM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Informal Survey

charlie, that is priceless!  we all have these deadlines...but who has
actually enforced them -- that's the story i want to hear.

Quoting Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU>:

> The King's decree that all must wear hats acquires respect only if
> the first hatless head is severed.
>
>
> At 11:02 AM 12/12/2008, you wrote:
>> Good morning folks and Happy Holidays to all -
>>
>> Due to many late applications and our office being understaffed, I
>> would like to consider a new internal policy that states something
>> like:
>>
>> "Establishing an internal receipt deadline is a necessary step to
>> maintain our ability to successfully submit grant applications on
>> time to sponsors.  Due to the marked increase in grant applications
>> and research agreements, it is imperative that OSP have appropriate
>> time for institutional review and due diligence. Effective ________,
>> grant applications along with complete internal documentation must
>> be received in the Office of Sponsored Programs no later than ____
>> (__) business days in advance of the sponsor's deadline.  OSP will
>> no longer accept grant applications not meeting this requirement."
>>
>> Do any of your institutions that have a hard internal deadline like
>> this?    Please let me know if you do have something similar, what
>> the policy states, and how was it received amongst your faculty
>> members.  I greatly appreciate everyone's input.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Melinda Cotten
>> Executive Director, Sponsored Programs (OSP)
>> M. D. Anderson Cancer Center
>> Houston, TX  77030
>>
>>
>>
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