It is almost the opposite, after June you should not need PureEdge. Here is the Grants.gov timeline • Agency Specific Timelines Being Identified • Agencies Posting in Adobe Upon Successful Testing • April 1, 2008: NEW PE Opportunity Posting Cut Off – Open PE Opportunities Migrated to Adobe • June 30, 2008: PE Application Submission Cut Off – Adobe Application Submissions Only After June 30 • July 3 – 5, 2008: Remaining Open PE Opportunities Migrated to Adobe by Grants.gov • December 30, 2008: 2006 PE System Retired – 6 Month Archive Also, consider this list of what agencies are doing • Agencies posting 100% in Adobe: 5 • Agencies Posting in PE & Adobe: 11 • Agencies Not Posting in Adobe: 9 We have been doing Adobe Forms for NOAA and Department of Energy. NIH announced at FDP that they will have a couple of Adobe Forms applications in the next month or so. R01's for June will be Adobe Forms, if the above time line is followed. Best to get your ADOBE READER 8.1.1 up and running now. Bob xxxxxx@umich.edu On Jan 23, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Bloomberg, Robert wrote: Please excuse what may be a stupid question, but I thought we didn't need to use Adobe Reader 8.1.1 until around June. Am I wrong? -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On Behalf Of May Watling Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:03 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov Adobe forms questions I went through the same experience of having both adobe professional 8.0 and adobe reader 8.1.1 on my computer. With the help of grants.gov, I was told that the default system should be the reader 8.1.1 when openning the adobe files. I did so but still when submitting the application, I received an error message from grants.gov. We had to have someone who only had the reader 8.1.1 installed re-enter everything in the application and resend it. That worked. May Watling Research Training & Compliance Administrator The George Washington University Office of Research Training and Compliance (202) 994-7990 On 1/22/08, xxxxxx@umich.edu <xxxxxx@umich.edu> wrote: > This is what I am telling our campus. > > "Concerning what you need to process grants, you can believe your IT > Support staff or you can believe Grants.gov staff. The Grants.gov > staff say to use ADOBE READER 8.1.1 to download, open, fill in and > submit grant applications." > > In so far as federal grant applications are concerned, I suspect most > IT Support staff are, in most cases, under-informed. They are well > meaning people who think they are doing what is in the best > interest of > those whom they support. I am sorry if I sound harsh here, I have > been, shall we say, politely, "discussing" this issue with a number of > well meaning people on our campus. I would like to think, in grants > management, our IT colleagues will carry out the necessary support > role, once the grants people tell them what is needed. > > This is turning out to be painful for everyone. I hope General > Dynamics had planned for a better outcome than they have gotten when > they sold Grants.gov on using Adobe, a program over which they have no > control, and which is much more complicated, for a University, than > they could have anticipated. > > Back to IT. No matter what those folks say, you need to use ADOBE > READER 8.1.1. You cannot use Professional and believe, as some IT > people have told me, it will work "just like Reader." If you believe > that, then move your submission deadline back a few days to compensate > for all the invalid applications. I know that most IT managers must > centrally control what goes on peoples' computers. This can be at a > department or even an institutional level. I suspect this did not go > into the General Dynamics calculation for success. They probably > assumed everyone just installed whatever was wanted, whenever it was > convenient. So cause for more pain. > > The proverbial "bottom line" is that you should make ADOBE READER > 8.1.1 > your browser default program to open all .pdf files from the internet. > You can still use other Adobe programs to make .pdf attachment files. > The other Adobe programs will still work in conjunction with Reader. > Be careful, however, when you open up Professional as it will ask you > to make it your browser default. Just say no. > > The newest statement from Grants.gov staff, who are trying to be as > helpful as possible as they are caught in the middle of all this, is > that you should not use both Reader 7.0.9 and 8.1.1 on the same > file or > you will get even more problems. Thus I am, as well, asking our > campus > to use only ADOBE READER 8.1.1. > > I hope this long explanation sheds some light on this as Suzan > requested. > > Bob > ____________________________ > Robert Beattie UMich Grants.gov Liaison > Managing Project Representative for eRA > Division of Research Development and Administration > University of Michigan > 734 936-1283 > xxxxxx@umich.edu > > > > Quoting Suzan G Lund <xxxxxx@UNLNOTES.UNL.EDU>: > >> Does anyone out there know how having the Adobe Acrobat Professional >> (version 8.1.1) affects the use of the new forms packages? We've >> only had >> limited exposure to the forms packages thus far and are not clear >> if using >> Acrobat Professional, which our office has, creates/solves any >> problems. >> We're only hearing about the use of Reader 8.1.1. Even our IT >> guys aren't >> sure. Any light you can shed would be helpful. Thanks. >> >> Suzan G. Lund, CRA >> Associate Director >> Sponsored Programs >> University of Nebraska-Lincoln >> 312 N. 14th St., Alexander West >> Lincoln, NE 68588-0430 >> Ph: 402-472-1930 Fax: 402-472-9323 >> email: xxxxxx@unl.edu >> >> Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens >> can change >> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. 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