Re: what's in the Fed Id field Bonnie Kwit 06 Jul 2007 15:33 EST

Now I'm getting confused.  Are  you saying that for a corrected/changed
submission...if you correct/change the same application, say 5 times, the
original grants.gov tracking number (THE FIRST CORRECTED/CHANGED #) should
be recorded in the Federal Identifier field?  Have I been doing it wrong??
Bob, where are you?  Am I wrong?  And if I'm wrong does it matter?

Bonnie Kwit
Grants & Contracts Officer
Oakland University
544 O'Dowd Hall
(248) 370-4116

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Nordquist, Daniel G
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] what's in the Fed Id field

I am of the mindset that the g.g tracking # should be the ONLY number in
the federal identifier field.  The time stamp generated by the first
submission is our saving grace for corrections.  Therefore, any initial
submission would not include any number in that field.  Any correction
submission(s) would only include the g.g tracking # to maintain the
first time stamp.  Elsewhere in the document there should be a place for
the agency number to go for all agencies.

There is simply a struggle here with time stamp importance vs. agency
reference number importance.  We understand that both are important but
we really need to separate them to make our lives easier and reduce
confusion in the community.

Regards,

Dan Nordquist
Washington State University

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] what's in the Fed Id field

Your right, no where.  But, when submitting a change/corrected
application
many times, I always use the preceeding g.g tracking #.

If before deadline any change they want to make I'll do.  Haven't run up
against anything after deadline.

Bonnie Kwit
Grants & Contracts Officer
Oakland University
544 O'Dowd Hall
(248) 370-4116

-----Original Message-----
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Robert Beattie
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 4:48 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] what's in the Fed Id field

Here is my cheat sheet for what to put in the Federal Identifier
field for NIH

New Application
First submission -- nothing in the Federal Identifier field
Corrected submissions (NIH errors or PI/SO rejection) --  Grants.gov
tracking number ( I use the original one if more than one correction
is needed)

Not a New Application (resubmission, etc)
First  submission -- NIH Grant number:  2 letter institute code and 6
digits, including a preceding zero
Corrected submission -- NIH Grant number:  2 letter institute code
and 6 digits, including a preceding zero

That seems pretty easy.  So the correct answer to my question below, is
no where :)

Also, always reject an accepted "imaged" application, before you
submit a corrected (or perhaps just changed) version.  This is the
safest procedure, even though the system might automatically replace
with a new version.

Do grants office staff allow PI's to make cosmetic and other non-
error-fixing changes to imaged applications PRIOR to the deadline, or
do you only reject and accept a new one if there is an error/
problem.  Do you use different criteria if after the deadline?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of
Robert Beattie
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 2:55 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Proposal rejection on NIH Commons

Where do you put the Grants.gov Number when you are sending a
corrected version of an NIH resubmission?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Jul 5, 2007, at 2:42 PM, Lucretia Hollingshed wrote:

it rejects it automatically when you insert the grants.gov #
GRANT00000 in the changed/correct grant that you submitted.  I
noticed this as well.

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