Re: One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal Bonnie Kwit 30 Jun 2006 11:04 EST

At least the faculty member had an appointment at both institutions.  I
could see that working.

Bonnie Kwit
Grants & Contracts Officer
Oakland University
544 O'Dowd Hall
(248) 370-4116

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Wilson, Thomas
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal

I agree it sounds crazy, but I have had this some type of situation at a
former institution.

We executed a subaward with the collaborating institution and the
faculty member had an appointment at both institutions and got paid for
his time contributed at both institutions.  He was supervising the work
being done by his lab at each institution and had effort at each
institution.  We needed to do a sub anyhow since there were other
salaries and expenses incurred at the collaborating institution.

Crazy, but it worked well!

Tom

Thomas E. Wilson
Director, Sponsored Projects
City of Hope National Medical Center
 and Beckman Research Institute
1500 East Duarte Road
Duarte, CA 91010-3000

Tel: 626-301-8438
Fax: 626-301-8843

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Behalf Of Bonnie Kwit
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 5:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal

No.  She should be paid by her own organization.  Otherwise, the
collaborating organization would have to have her as a subcontract or
consultant in order to pay her.  Sounds crazy to me!

Bonnie Kwit
Grants & Contracts Officer
Oakland University
544 O'Dowd Hall
(248) 370-4116
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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Donna Berger
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:43 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] One PI with PI status on collaborative proposal

Dear REASAMers,

I need to deal with an issue in the morning and need your input on two
issues:

1) We have a PI doing a collaborative NSF proposal. She wants to name
herself as PI for both the lead organization and the non-lead
collaborating institution where she will be spending a portion of her
time on this research project. Would your university allow her to be
named as PI for both organizations?

2) This PI is a faculty member at the lead institution (our college),
but since she will do a substantial part of her research at the
collaborating institution, she wants to budget for her time and effort
on the non-lead institution's budget and be paid by them, rather than
budget her time on our budget and be paid by us. In other words, she
wants to have the non-lead institution recoup her salary money on the
rate of pay that they would assign to her and pay her directly with NSF
funds, rather be paid through us, her primary place of employment. Would
any of your institutions entertain such an arrangement?

Any input you could give me would be much appreciated. As an aside, from
her dean's perspective, this is extra summer work and she would approve
it as a summer work assignment. I see all kinds of issues that would
argue against such an arrangement on a federal proposal, but there are
conflicting views on this. I really would like to see this proposal
happen, but not at the risk of putting the institution in a precarious
position.
Thank you for any input you can give.

Sincerely,
Donna Berger

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