Yes, but Win Ann, you folks had a mighty "running head start." 5 years (?) of development for a model Grants Management System already gives a great springboard to jump into Grants.gov S2S. I was thinking only of those of us whose higher ups did not have the vision of those at Minn and did not believe e-grants was really coming. Who can start from scratch with the NIH August announcement and be ready to go in July? Minnesota and MIT were far ahead of the pack :) Bob xxxxxx@umich.edu On Dec 12, 2005, at 5:31 PM, wschumi wrote: This doesn't all apply to us since he is talking about GrantSLam, but thought it would be interesting info for our project - see paragraph about S2S - and no institution being ready by 2nd quarter 06. - We'll almost be there!!!! Win Ann Robert Beattie wrote: > snip > 4. Cayuse is now working on this new system to allow users to > create applications compatible with Grants.gov. The system is > still being built so I have not used it. I do know that the plan > is to allow users to open a file with the appropriate schema for > the desired application downloaded from Grants.gov. This can be > done with mac or pc. Saved data such as institutional > information, PI profiles, and budgets can be incorporated into the > file. Unique information can be added and text files converted to > pdf and up-loaded. I have just completed the conversion of a > Grants.gov file to an NIH Commons version (helped a PI with an > STTR) and can say there is much tedious data entry and > opportunities for errors. I refer to NIH fatal errors that are > not revealed until the file reaches the NIH Commons. These must > be corrected prior to the final deadline. > The complete file can then be printed if desired (not so with > plain Grants.gov file except section by section), or viewed, and > approved electronically by the appropriate officials and then > submitted to Grants.gov via an html stream ala the S2S procedure. > This process would be instead of requiring users to treat each > application as a unique task and route as a paper copy for > approval to the grants office which would then submit as is done > now. I hope to know more about this system and get a chance to > test it. > I know some grants office folks are nervous about waiting for > something that will not be ready until perhaps the early second > quarter of 2006. I doubt any school will have created its own > system by then. One advantage I think that comes from such a > system is that it would work for all sponsors who use Grants.gov. > I certainly cannot vouch for it now but do look forward to testing > it. Grants.gov staff are very sensitive to the Mac problem and > hope to have it corrected soon. Even if there is no platform > problem, a G.g interface option might be useful. In the past I > have made objective appraisals of the eCGAP system and will > continue to do so for the Grants.govSlam product. So more later, > I hope. > Bob > xxxxxx@umich.edu > On Dec 9, 2005, at 2:42 PM, Jon Hart wrote: > I had to add my 2 cents on this. > About 50% of our faculty use MACs, and the PureEdge solution has > them ready > to take the grants.gov offices by storm (und drang). For this > reason (only) > we are going to have to have a solution apart from the PureEdge > software, > which offers a MAC "fix" that is basically unworkable. We purchased > InfoEd's Proposal Development module some time ago (we use other > modules of > theirs) which is a web-based solution that will accept any > platform that can > mount a browser, which we hope will work for everyone until > grants.gov gets > their act in order -- if they ever do. Grants.gov has forced > those of us > with substantial MAC communities to purchase third-party software, > whether > InfoEd, GrantSlam (historically a good product, in my opinion), or > other > vendors' programs. I think it unconscionable that our government > has put us > in this position to request federal assistance for important > research, but > there you are (vent). > Joni. > Jon Hart, M.P.A., C.I.P. > Senior Director > Office of Sponsored Programs Administration > Human Subjects Protections Program > The Rockefeller University > email: xxxxxx@mail.rockefeller.edu > Tel: (212) 327-8054; fax: (212) 327-8400 > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
