Epimetheus?

Don't be silly.

Sisyphys is our role model -- or should that be roll model?

On 7/21/05, Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@aecom.yu.edu> wrote:
>  Jane-  a person with 100% salary support from grants has no time to write
> proposals?  I feel like Epimetheus accepting the gifts of Ms. Pandora.
>
>  Institutional support of time to write grant proposals?    How many
> institutions do this?   I mean REALLY support ALL of it.  How much time does
> it take to write an NIH R01 application???   [Answer: if the length of time
> certain PIs doors are closed and their voices not heard is any measure, it
> is a LOT!]   Should we be discussing this on a dark rainy street in Geneva?
>
>  Charlie
>
>
>
>  At 01:53 PM 7/21/2005, you wrote:
>
>  If I could jump in here.
>
>  First, I agree with what Ted Mordhorst wrote--if you appoint your emeritus
> faculty member with a 20% appointment at whatever base salary, then that
> would be 100% of his time and that's how you would propose it to NIH.  The
> salary you would come up with would be appropriate for a person of his rank
> before retirement.
>
>  With respect to the research faculty member; we have several of those who
> are totally dependent upon research funding for their salary.  Their
> institutional base salary would be determined at a rate comparible with
> others at your institution of similar rank, experience, and stature.  And
> you would base whatever percentage of salary requested under the grant on
> that base salary.  One caveat:  if these folks are indeed 100%, you are
> assuming that they don't do anything else for the institution including
> writing grant proposals for future support.  You may want to think about a
> very small percentage of their salary being paid by the institution in order
> to allow for other activities--probably less than five.  Or you could use
> the argument that they are paid 100% by the grant but that their proposal
> writing activities, etc. are merely incidental and not material--that's the
> riskier avenue to take.  Guess it all depends upon your degree to risk
> adversity.
>
>  Jane
>  Jane A. Youngers
>  Director, Grants Management
>  University of Texas Health Science Center
>     at San  Antonio
>  MC 7828
>  7703 Floyd Curl Drive
>  San Antonio TX  78229-3900
>  210.567.2333 voice
>  210.567.2344 fax
>  xxxxxx@uthscsa.edu
>
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