I don't want to meddle in another national lab's affairs, but would it be
possible to enter into a no-funds CRADA?  Or are there other components of
the CRADA (not related to funding and cost) that concern you?  I would
appreciate hearing from you on this; you see,

This year's NCURA meeting will include a session on University-National
Laboratory partnerships:  Monday, November 1 at 10:30 a.m.  The session
coincides with the imminent release of a report by the National Academies on
the same subject.  Our panel consists of representatives from three national
labs and DOE Headquarters.  (The following day there will be a discussion
group speaking specifically to partnerships with Brookhaven National Lab).
Perhaps you are raising issues we need to address.

I hope folks will consider attending this session and reading the National
Academies report when it is released (presumably later this month).  The
NCURA setting provides the opportunity for university personnel to express
their concerns to an assembly of national lab and headquarters
representatives, not just to a lone contracts administrator at the other end
of the telephone line.  And we need to have this kind of open dialogue if we
want to make what I would call "FDP-like progress" on some of these issues.

____________________________
Thomas O. Murphy
Office of Intellectual Property and Sponsored Research
Brookhaven National Laboratory
P.O. Box 5000, MS-475D, Upton NY 11973
Tel:  631-344-3312
Fax:  631-344-3729
URL:  www.bnl.gov/techxfer

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG] On Behalf Of
Steven Etheredge
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:09 AM
To: xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG
Subject: [RESADM-L] Working with DOE national lab

Dear Colleagues:

Although we have had many awards from various national labs, we have just
recently had a couple of occasions where we are the prime awardee and a
national lab is the subcontractor or collaborator.  When a national lab was
our actual subcontractor, we "negotiated" a DOE Works for Others (WFO)
agreement.

Now that we are the prime awardee and a national lab is a collaborator which
received its money directly from DOE for the project, we are being told by
the lab that we must enter into a CRADA with them to cover their work under
this project.  Our prime award from DOE says that we are responsible for the
work done by the collaborator, the national lab.

Have you been in this situation?  If so, have you been able to negotiate
some kind of agreement other than a WFO or CRADA?  If you ended up with a
CRADA, were you successful in negotiating the terms of this agreement?

Any input will be appreciated.

Steve Etheredge

R. Steven Etheredge
Director, Pre-Award Services
Sponsored Awards Management
University of South Carolina
(803) 777-4457
(803) 777-4136 fax
xxxxxx@gwm.sc.edu

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